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re: The Advocate's football preview: Breaking down LSU's 2018 schedule

Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:33 am to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:33 am to
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We play the toughest schedule in the history of college football

If our boys manage to finish the season at all, it will be a major win for Coach O.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:52 am to
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15-11 SEC record in his last 4 seasons along with his pitiful anemic offense that he kept saying he'd change & fix but never did is what got him fired.


please list all other 13 SEC schools conference record over this same time period TIA.

(spoiler: theres only 2 teams with a better record)
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108261 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:53 am to
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LSU has no leadership to drive a change with AD or HC. And by no leadership, I mean President, BOS, or boosters. Lastly, the fans seem ok with whatever results Yaw Yaw delivers. “He’s one of us.”



I've always said that with our current LSU president and Governor in place, I doubt we'd be able to get someone a lot better than Alleva.

As for the fans being happy with whatever W-L record Ed has, I haven't seen this on here. Show me where the majority of the O fans would be happy with a 6 or 7 win season, because “He’s one of us.” That's a very ignorant thing to say.





Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:55 am to
It is just a false narrative made to support their agenda.
Posted by Tigerinevergreen
Member since Aug 2018
1068 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 9:57 am to
So if you are okay with that 15-11 record, you should love O's 6-2 record as perm head coach, or 10-4 including both temp and perm.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108261 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:01 am to
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please list all other 13 SEC schools conference record over this same time period TIA.

(spoiler: theres only 2 teams with a better record)



So, since 2011 you were ok with 1 2nd place west finish, 2 3rd place finishes and a 4th place, and obviously no SECCG appearances and no major bowl games?
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:03 am to
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So if you are okay with that 15-11 record


where did I say I was ok with it? I simply pointed out it was the 3rd best record over the period of time.

quote:

6-2 record as perm head coach


thats 1 season, where the 6 wins came againts teams with a combined 18-30 conference record. how are you going to compare one season to 4 seasons?

and conference record fails to take into account this record: 35-0. That was LSU's record vs Sunbelt teams prior to the 2017 season.
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:05 am to
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So, since 2011 you were ok with 1 2nd place west finish, 2 3rd place finishes and a 4th place, and obviously no SECCG appearances and no major bowl games?


So, since I pointed out 15-11 over the past 4 years was the 3rd best in conference play, you had to change your approach to talking about where LSU finished in the standings each year?

no I was not ok with it. go check my post history. there is no love lost between me and Les. but I am not going to ignore facts. the fact is that thinking LSU was "saved" from some "crisis" by replacing its most successful coach with Ole Miss' worst coach is lunacy, straight up.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:23 am to
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15-11 SEC record in his last 4 seasons along with his pitiful anemic offense that he kept saying he'd change & fix but never did is what got him fired. O will not and should not get the luxury of hanging around forever like Les did, if he can't do better.


You misapprehend. I was in no way endorsing Miles. He should have been fired in 2015. But that does not mean someone even worse should have been hired to replace him.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108261 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:34 am to
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no I was not ok with it. go check my post history. there is no love lost between me and Les. but I am not going to ignore facts. the fact is that thinking LSU was "saved" from some "crisis" by replacing its most successful coach with Ole Miss' worst coach is lunacy, straight up.




I'm very skeptical of Ed having the job as well. He's already had a major screw up with a coaching hire, he had 2 bad losses along with the bowl game last season, he's spoken from both sides of his mouth on numerous occasions, and crushing a red bull on his head makes me think he maybe hasn't learned anything from his Ole Miss days.

With that said, I always despised Les Miles being our HC and I'll give O this season before I vilify him. We seemingly have a talented team on both sides of the ball. Maybe we'll do well, I hope so.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39990 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:38 am to
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With that said, I always despised Les Miles being our HC and I'll give O this season before I vilify him.

So let me get this straight... you always despised Les despite his first three seasons resulting in an SECW crown, a blowout Sugar Bowl win and a National Title but you’re willing to give O two full seasons and an interim stint before “vilifying” him?

What part of Lafourche are you from cher?
Posted by GeauxPack81
Member since Dec 2009
10485 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:43 am to
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They have LSU going 7-5 with losses to Miami, Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, and A&M


This is the coldest fricking take. How much does he get paid to write this? Probably copy and pasted opinions from every major "college football expert"


This team is a 9-3 team. 8-4 would be disappointing, 10-2 would be really good.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44279 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:45 am to
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It is just a false narrative made to support their agenda


Sort of like the schedule is too tough narrative.

Interesting.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
108261 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:47 am to
Les was incredibly lucky his 1st few years, and as I've said before, I'll take that luck...I was very happy for the team and the success, but never liked Miles.


quote:

What part of Lafourche are you from cher?



I'm from BR, but that was a very astute and clever assumption.
Posted by GCTiger11
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Jan 2012
45204 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:47 am to
I honestly don't even bother reading stuff like this, and quite frankly bored of the preseason "prediction" talk. Nobody knows jackshit about what which team looks like what in August. Who had Auburn winning the West last year?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
39990 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:49 am to
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Les was incredibly lucky his 1st few years, and as I've said before, I'll take that luck...I was very happy for the team and the success, but never liked Miles.

You said you despised him as our coach from the beginning. In one breath you acknowledge that O has already fricked up several times in one year as a head coach but are willing to "give him a chance". Les on the other hand has 3 straight incredible years to start his career, but it was "luck" and you "despise" him. You're a joke.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44279 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 10:59 am to
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Nobody knows jackshit about what which team looks like what in August. Who had Auburn winning the West last year?


Says no one when the team is highly ranked.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
204036 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:00 am to
You are a pathetic homer.... zero reality at all.....
Posted by Stuckinthe90s
Dallas, TX
Member since Apr 2013
2579 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:12 am to
Honestly I see Miami as a swing game:

If we can game plan them and beat them, we can probably pull out wins against Florida, Miss State, and A&M and POSSIBLY Auburn (though we never win at Jordan Hare).

If we lose to Miami convincingly, I do see any way we beat miss state or Auburn. And those next tier of games, Florida, Arkansas, and A&M do not look good for us.

All I know for sure is that we are going to beat:
1. SELA
2. LA Tech
3. Ole Miss
4. Rice

Everything outside of those four will have to be earned collectively by the coaches, players, analysts, trains, etc.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6795 posts
Posted on 8/21/18 at 11:20 am to
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Could just as well be 5-7 I guess.


Could very well be in deed.

Obviously, I would like us to have a better record; however, if I had to choose between 6-6 and 5-7, I would choose 5-7 b/c I know that would lead to both O and Alleva's immediate termination.
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