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re: That was a good damn win against SMU
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:51 am to 10Ways2LoseAwife
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:51 am to 10Ways2LoseAwife
LOL. I knew if I came here there would still be the usual bitches trying to downplay any win. And no McMahon didn’t have a full roster when he got here. Naturally players did what they do when a coach leaves. They leave. The win last night was more impressive considering their 2nd best player sat the bench the entire 1st half yet had the lead at halftime. That is a result of coaching. The offense was constantly moving setting picks both on and off the ball. Yes they still need another 3 to step up. King , Carter and Miller need to do more when they are in but LSU controlled this game from start to finish. That is a good statement coming off the Texas Tech loss where we competed with them the second half and that effort continued last night. Sutton started to take the ball to the hole in second half of TT and continued that against SMU. He is a problem because he had inside and outside game. Hopefully he continues to be aggressive moving forward.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:30 pm to 10Ways2LoseAwife
I’m a season ticket holder and I see how died the pmac is every game. Guess I’m not the only one down on him. I think 99.9% of the fan base is down on him
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:33 pm to LakeCityTiger128
Nope. SMU is exactly the type of team we should be playing more of in the OOC. And I like that it was a neutral site game. Because that increases the chance of SMU staying a quad 1 win. I’m just saying they aren’t top third of the ACC in my opinion.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:53 pm to rumproast
Maybe I’ll actually watch a game now.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 8:35 pm to lsubruce
First conference game against A&M is probably one of those flex games that make or break the season. A&M is probably one of the bottom 4 teams in conference, but not so incompetent that playing at their place is a gimme win. If we win, that’s a good step.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 9:21 pm to CWILKS3
Yes, Auburn got blown out by Arizona as well - 97- 68. Just have to focus on getting better each day. LSU do have athletes and a solid point guard.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 12:58 am to The Pirate King
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The first season he gets enough resources to get a decent roster, we're 9-1 and you want to fire him already? Seems like you have unrealistic expectations and not enough patience.
Our previous basketball coach that you hate because you seem to get off on taking the exact opposite position of any rational LSU fan from 2021 for whatever reason -- was superior to what we have now
That said I can't hate the job the current coach is doing this year. Waiting to see how the season plays out. Enthusiasm isn't very high because results haven't been very good and even in these better wins the team flat out hasn't been as much fun to watch, which is always a factor in this too.
Just keep winning and people will come around if it's meant to be.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 1:40 am to CapitalTiger
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He was getting about $1.5-2 million from bayou traditions until this season. Got $6 million before collectives ended with house settlement plus revenue share throughout season (another $1.5)
Did this allow him to pick up players that are much better than last couple years rosters? Asking seriously as I did not watch a single game last year nor any this year so far.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 7:49 am to Kingshakabooboo
More money is always going to allow you to get better players. He couldn’t have gotten a DJ Thomas or a Sutton the last couple of years. It has been reported a number of times that LSU and SC had spent the least amount of money the last couple of years (around $2.5 mil) and coincidentally had the 2 worst programs. This year they announced they will be increasing the NIL (reported around $8 mil) and suddenly we have a different looking team. It is very difficult to get an absolute verified hard number but the proof is in the pudding as they say.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:00 am to rumproast
Why does everyone hate McMahon. The guy shows up. Wants to win more than anyone. The whole team quit and he started with an empty locker room. He had barely any NIL according to the posters on this site Can we give the man a break and a chance to succeed
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:28 am to Redhead57
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Why does everyone hate McMahon.
No one hates McMahon, the person. Fans hate that LSU has been the losingest, worst, (whatever adjective you want to use) basketball program in the SEC during his three year tenure. That's not based upon a subjective opinion. It's simply what his W-L record reflects
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The whole team quit and he started with an empty locker room.
That is the nature of college basketball today. In fact, McMahon has LESS returning players in year 4 than he did in year 1. How long is this nonsensical talking point going to continue to be brought up?
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Can we give the man a break and a chance to succeed
It's year 4. All 5 of the other coaches hired in the SEC at the same time has McMahon have already reached the NCAA Tournament at least once. One has already won a national championship. Yet, LSU fans are supposed to just be patient?
If you are an LSU fan you have seen FAR more successful coaches fired for FAR less poor results than McMahon. Hell, just in basketball alone John Brady went to a Final Four and was fired 1.5 seasons later. Trent Johnson won the SEC...then was smart enough to leave before being fired 3 seasons later. Johnny Jones only had one losing season in 5 years and only finished below .500 in SEC play once in his LSU tenure. Didn't matter. That ONE bad year was enough to send him packing.
Yet, there is an ardent handful of fans that treat McMahon like he is a make-a-wish recipient getting to live out his lifelong dream of coaching major college basketball and that any criticism is unwarranted because the poor results are in no way his fault. It's mind boggling.
NO LSU coach in the last 50 years has been treated with such kid-gloves
Posted on 12/16/25 at 9:38 am to Alt26
No LSU Basketball coach in the last 50 years had to deal with this NIL era. Apples and oranges. Wade, who I loved, got superior players because he was paying under the table. Now it's legal and EVERYONE is doing it so it now comes down to who has the most $$$$. Some of it is also the program and coach but if you want to compete on the floor you have to compete with the $$$. LSU did not do that until this year. That is why I am judging harder this year. Also the basketball talent in this state has been subpar the last few years. That hasn't helped the situation any.
Posted on 12/16/25 at 10:02 am to mcspufftiger7
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No LSU Basketball coach in the last 50 years had to deal with this NIL era.
EVERY coach in the last 50 years has had to deal with the "NIL era". It just wasn't called NIL then. Blue chip prosects have been getting paid for DECADES. That's the basis for the entire existence of AAU basketball.
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Wade, who I loved, got superior players because he was paying under the table.
It's not simply that he was "paying under the table" while others weren't. It's that he was paying more and recruiting harder than many others. That money came from boosters/donors. The same people who are now giving money in the form of NIL. Wade went out and shook the trees to get it. McMahon has not wanted to do that.
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lso the basketball talent in this state has been subpar the last few years. That hasn't helped the situation any.
Basketball is not like football. The majority of the really good LSU teams in the past have relied on out of state players. Brady's Final Four team was the rare exception. The narrative that McMahon was "woefully underfunded" (which would have been the case, were it true, MONTHS before the season started) didn't come up until late last season when an excuse was needed to justify keeping a HC for another year who was in the midst of another really bad season.
Regardless, every other HC, in every other sport, had some sort of adverse circumstances they had to overcome. Yet, NONE have had the constant wave of excuses to absolve him/her from any responsibility for the poor performance.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 5:13 pm to tigerbacon
99.9% of the fan base are douche nozzles who couldn't coach their way out of a wet paper bag, yet they want to tell working, employed , coaches how to do it. You do not play the game. You are a spectator who downs kids that play the game, the coaches who coach the game. You are not in the locker room after losing a close game. You do not feel the disappointment. But you and people like you sure as hell do bitch about everything under the sun.
Every team these kids play, they play against good teams. Maybe not great teams. But if they are good enough to start a D1 game and they are on the court playing.........they did not get there because they were terrible players.
Every team these kids play, they play against good teams. Maybe not great teams. But if they are good enough to start a D1 game and they are on the court playing.........they did not get there because they were terrible players.
Posted on 12/17/25 at 10:23 pm to 10Ways2LoseAwife
I pay and attend every home game. When college players were a mature never criticized them. But now they get paid they are fair game. Not my fault MM is over his head. 3 million for being a doormat of the sec. LSU deserves better
Posted on 12/18/25 at 6:34 am to mcspufftiger7
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e couldn’t have gotten a DJ Thomas or a Sutton the last couple of years. It has been reported a number of times that LSU and SC had spent the least amount of money the last couple of years (around $2.5 mil) and coincidentally had the 2 worst programs.
I think an argument could be made that he could have (gotten better funding) but he does not have to force of personality or desire to raise funds/demand funding - he basically said I'm gonna coach and the rest of that is up to others. That's just a fact, he's not likely ever going to be that guy either.
So IMHO he was complicit in whatever degree of lack of funding there was and there's really no getting around that. Part of the job of a head coach, especially at a school that does not value men's hoops is to raise funding and promote your program. Our two most successful coaches here in basketball did that very well.
I think LSU pushed the narrative of underfunding in a strong PR push IMHO more out of a means to avoid 4 years of a buyout more than any other reason but they did it - so we have arguably our best talent in CMM's 4 years.
I hope he wins and succeeds. I've had my concerns above and beyond lack of funding these last 3 plus years but I'll say again, I'd rather be wrong and he be successful - winning arguments on a message board is much less satisfying for me than LSU winning.
This post was edited on 12/18/25 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/18/25 at 8:32 am to rumproast
Be a little more descriptive or do you just want us to think of any game and comment?
Posted on 12/19/25 at 11:47 pm to 10Ways2LoseAwife
Cool the team is not terrible i guess in relative terms. I mean we aren’t Mississippi Valley State. I guess that’s what the fan base expects now just don’t be horrendous against teams that make the tourney. Have close games against SELU and get slaughtered in SEC. Bubble teams are GREAT wins. This is where we are at. This is when we need a change. It’s shocking how may people defend this kind of performance over the course of a season. If they suck again this year can you just stop the sunshine pumping?
This post was edited on 12/19/25 at 11:49 pm
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