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re: Stop blaming Miles for the offense!
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:07 pm to Tiger MemRee
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:07 pm to Tiger MemRee
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OP: respond to this
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Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:08 pm to Cap Crunch
Our starting running back was our fourth string running back last year. We still have our top three running backs from last year and a freshman who may be better than all of them.
This post was edited on 10/7/12 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:08 pm to Polar Bear
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I'll answer. Recent offensive rankings -
2008 - 55th
2009 - 112th
2010 - 86th
2011 - 86th
2012 (through 10/6, after playing Towson, NT, and Idaho) - 76th
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Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:10 pm to Polar Bear
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2008 - 55th
2009 - 112th
2010 - 86th
2011 - 86th
2012 (through 10/6, after playing Towson, NT, and Idaho) - 76th
Dammit, 5 straight years of our untalented players not executing.
One day they will execute and the genius of Les' offensive philosophy will be revealed to the world.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:11 pm to GABlueDog
2015 is our year.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:11 pm to The Ostrich
Good point. Huge offensive line, deep stable of running backs and top flight athletes at the skill positions and we can't make it into the top half of the FBS offensive rankings. Anybody believe that our talent is bottom half talent, or is it more likely that our offensive coaches are?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:11 pm to Fabius
Its deceiving to say 4th string. Everyone was so close together in terms of how they played that the depth chart really didn't matter
If you watched the 1st 3 games this year you'd have seen that Blue had clearly separated himself from the rest of the pack. I'm not saying that our other running backs can't handle it but one of them needs to step up like Blue did early on. That combined with the O-line injuries is why we only put up 40 rushing yards yesterday.
If you watched the 1st 3 games this year you'd have seen that Blue had clearly separated himself from the rest of the pack. I'm not saying that our other running backs can't handle it but one of them needs to step up like Blue did early on. That combined with the O-line injuries is why we only put up 40 rushing yards yesterday.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:12 pm to Fabius
Isn't Miles the head coach?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:17 pm to MardiGrasCajun
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How is pointing out facts trolling? Maybe I can be like others here and just base my comments on shear emotion and stupidity.
Points don't tell the story of offensive production, especially with 4th best scoring D in football last year. Special teams, particularly Wing and TM7, flipped field all year long. We ran 300 less plays last year than the 07' team, 200 less than 08'.
But look at points if that stat makes you feel better about what's ahead if no change in offensive philosophy
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:21 pm to Cap Crunch
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Comparing our depth on defense to our depth on offense is laughable. The gameplan works with the right personnel. We saw it last year. Hell, we even saw it earlier this year before all the injuries.
Last year LSU had a turnover margin of +20 (second only to Okie State). They were 17th in points per game but 86th in yards per game. The "scheme" worked because the defense generated a TON of turnovers and defense and special teams generated a lot of short fields (hence the discrepancy between yards per game and points per game). For reference, Alabama generated almost 100 more yards per game than LSU despite running a very similar scheme but generated slightly fewer points per game.
If your offensive scheme requires your defense to have a +20 turnover margin and your special teams to spot you an extra 100 yards per game then your offensive scheme sucks. For reference LSU had a turnover margin of +8 the year before, and +4 the year before that.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:24 pm to nf
Anybody think any of this is sinking in to the op?
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:25 pm to nf
Except for the last 2 games last year, our offense wasn't bad. We could actually move the ball and generate some points. While yes, our defense did set us up with great opportunities, our offense was at least capable of taking advantage of them. We can't do that this year. Perfect example was the defense forcing a fumble inside the 10 yard line and our offense couldn't do anything. That wouldn't have happened last year
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:27 pm to Cap Crunch
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losing an all-American LT and our staring running back is killing us right now.
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Comparing our depth on defense to our depth on offense is laughable. The gameplan works with the right personnel.
This response is as weak as our offense.
Apparently replacing our T cannot be overcome and therefore is the reason (or a big part of the reason) why we suck on offense, in your words. Just forget about this:
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Our defense lost the Thorpe Award Winner, the Bednarik Award Winner, a 1st Round NFL DT, a starting LB to grades, and a 3-year staring safety to the NFL and they still manage to be one of the best defenses in the nation.
Maybe coaching DOES have something to do with it...
and this...
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2008 - 55th
2009 - 112th
2010 - 86th
2011 - 86th
2012 (through 10/6, after playing Towson, NT, and Idaho) - 76th
And the fact that we have a stable of RBs in addition to Blue.
No, its because we lost our T that we are the way we are.
Open your eyes and wake up. Its been 5 years now.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:31 pm to Cap Crunch
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Perfect example was the defense forcing a fumble inside the 10 yard line and our offense couldn't do anything. That wouldn't have happened last year
In the first Alabama game LSU ended up with 1st and 10 on the Bama 8 after a big play from Sheppard and could not turn it in to a touchdown. They certainly executed better that year but the problems were still obvious in the first Alabama game, when it became obvious that against a defense as stout as ours we were completely hopeless.
Alabama had the same issue that first game, the difference is that they changed their play calling in the rematch and torched us, whereas we just kept doing the same stupid stuff over and over.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:35 pm to nf
Funny you mention that. I jokingly said while watching the game yesterday, "we're gonna win this game 9-6".
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:40 pm to GABlueDog
Our o-line has never been this bad though. I'm not trying to make excuses for the coaches. They are supposed to figure out a way to make our offense successful despite our O-line play. But the gameplan Miles/Stud want to run relies on a dominant o-line, and we don't have it this year.
And like I said earlier, one of those other running backs needs to step up. Blue appeared to be way ahead of them before he got hurt, and now none of them are stepping up. Although Jeremy Hill looked good in his few touches yesterday, maybe he is the one?
But we have always had way more talent on defense than offense and we have one of the best DCs in the country. That's why we can replace people there and our offense can't.
And like I said earlier, one of those other running backs needs to step up. Blue appeared to be way ahead of them before he got hurt, and now none of them are stepping up. Although Jeremy Hill looked good in his few touches yesterday, maybe he is the one?
But we have always had way more talent on defense than offense and we have one of the best DCs in the country. That's why we can replace people there and our offense can't.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:41 pm to nf
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n the first Alabama game LSU ended up with 1st and 10 on the Bama 8 after a big play from Sheppard and could not turn it in to a touchdown. They certainly executed better that year but the problems were still obvious in the first Alabama game, when it became obvious that against a defense as stout as ours we were completely hopeless.
Alabama was also the best team in college football last year. We knew going into that game that any points would be considered a success. The same went for them.
Can't really compare them to Florida this year, although Florida is a very good team this year.
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:43 pm to MardiGrasCajun
Then let's blame Obama ! 
Posted on 10/7/12 at 4:43 pm to MardiGrasCajun
That is not the average of the points scored by Miles' offense. That is the average points scored by LSU. The offense has been a problem since the BCS Championship against Ohio State. Go back and break how many points were scored by the offense and how much of that is special teams and defense.
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