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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:52 pm to
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Sullivan is listed as the starting TE.


Sullivan has been a WR until this season. He had 1 start last year as a WR. He's being moved to TE because of the WRs on the roster now.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:53 pm to
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I’d say it took 109 pages for Roger to contradict himself


Still waiting
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:54 pm to
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but the campaign to trash Canada after he was let go was pretty obvious and pathetic. After? That shite started LONG before he left the building!


Most of us grimaced when we saw the BYU game.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:58 pm to
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Here you go buddy.


One day you'll learn the difference between recruiting rankings and actual production. Scatter plots and rankings will tell you that Trevonte Valentine and Clifton Garret are studs, the actual football field will tell you otherwise.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38674 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 1:59 pm to
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but the campaign to trash Canada after he was let go was pretty obvious and pathetic.



After? That shite started LONG before he left the building! You could see it parroted on here...all the talk about the offense being a bad fit at LSU and him being a dick? Only weeks before we were told what a great hire he was...

That came from someone/somewhere...




yup
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Most of us grimaced when we saw the BYU game.


Yep

That was a terrible BYU team as well
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Yep

That was a terrible BYU team as well


It was the same shite as Miles, 57 runs and 18 passes. Guice and Williams combined for 42 carries. Lots of sideline to sideline running just to hand the ball off.

Things didn't get much better as the season went along, either.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:12 pm to
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That came from someone/somewhere...


Right. So let's just make up a collective fairy tale and run with it.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:22 pm to
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he said LSU lost a ton of offensive linemen from the 2016 class when I showed him they lost one. He likes to lube the truth a little bit



He must've learned it by watching you.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Member since Sep 2011
25582 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 2:30 pm to
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One day you'll learn the difference between recruiting rankings and actual production


2019
Recruiting: #5
Season: TBD

2018
Recruiting: #15
Season: 10-3

2017
Recruiting: #7
Season: 9-4

2016
Recruiting: #2
Season: 8-4

2015
Recruiting: #5
Season: 9-3

2014
Recruiting: #2
Season: 8-5

2013
Recruiting: #6
Season: 10-3


So since 2013, LSU has had a Top 10 recruiting class except for the 2018 dumpster fire and has lost at least 3 games each year. I agree that recruiting doesn't always reflect how a team will be on the field, but frick how can you do THAT well in recruiting and still come up significantly short. Not to mention that 90% of those losses are to teams within our conference who we compete with in recruiting.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:00 pm to
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Sullivan has been a WR until this season. He had 1 start last year as a WR. He's being moved to TE because of the WRs on the roster now.


Ok so is he listed as the starting TE or not?

You bitch and moan about people being dishonest but keep twisting shite around Mr. “2016 resulted in a ton of OL who left”.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:03 pm to
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One day you'll learn the difference between recruiting rankings and actual production. Scatter plots and rankings will tell you that Trevonte Valentine and Clifton Garret are studs, the actual football field will tell you otherwise.


How much production did LSU get from Smith, Livingston, Cotton, Sheffer, Provens and Scott?

How much production do you foresee this year from Nelson Jenkins, Jaray Jenkins, Cameron Wire, Kenan Jones, Travez Moore, and Jeryl Cherry?
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:05 pm to
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Things didn't get much better as the season went along, either.


Sounds like whoever hired the offensive coordinator dropped the ball.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68517 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:18 pm to
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but frick how can you do THAT well in recruiting and still come up significantly short.


We’re averaging the #6 class in the timeframe you posted. We finished around #6 this year. I’d say we are right on line with how we are recruiting.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:20 pm to
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Most of us grimaced when we saw the BYU game.



Grimaced? That's not how I remember it.

I remember a rant-gasm as soon as we saw that first line shift.
This post was edited on 6/24/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70048 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:22 pm to
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That's not how I remember it.

I remember a rant-gasm as soon as we saw that first line shift.


that offense looked terrible
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:29 pm to
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that offense looked terrible


And yet...he was hired by Ed Orgeron. Or are we still pretending Joe Alleva hired our OC?

Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68517 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:31 pm to
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And yet...he was hired by Ed Orgeron. Or are we still pretending Joe Alleva hired our OC?


We’ve been over the story of what happened ad nauseam. We don’t need to go over this again do we?
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/24/19 at 4:48 pm to
Oh man, some great stuff in those links.
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