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re: Someone ask O tonight if he got response from SEC office on ref calls
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:27 am to tigersbb
Posted on 11/10/16 at 12:27 am to tigersbb
I'm glad he submitted the plays that need to be reviewed, it's better than just taking these blown calls and saying, "Oh well."
With that being said, I sort of see this more as an opportunity to vent without getting fined.
The office sure won't say, "Oh you're right! Let's change that." and I'm not expecting that either.
I'm assuming if he gets a reply it'll be something similar to, "You're right. Those calls should've been made. We regret the oversight, blah blah blah." Then they'll get with Austin's crew and say, "Don't do that anymore, ok? Ok."
And that'll be the end of it. Until next season.
To reiterate though, I am glad that Orgeron didn't just remain quiet about those calls.
With that being said, I sort of see this more as an opportunity to vent without getting fined.
The office sure won't say, "Oh you're right! Let's change that." and I'm not expecting that either.
I'm assuming if he gets a reply it'll be something similar to, "You're right. Those calls should've been made. We regret the oversight, blah blah blah." Then they'll get with Austin's crew and say, "Don't do that anymore, ok? Ok."
And that'll be the end of it. Until next season.
To reiterate though, I am glad that Orgeron didn't just remain quiet about those calls.
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Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:20 am to tigersbb
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booth reviews
By Bugeyes, who is a proven cheater. Yeah, that's a fair tribunal. Just like a review of questionable calls by the head of SEC officials/Gump grad. We have to resign ourselves to having to beat the Gumps and the Zebras at the same time.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 6:44 am to Cheupique
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Please let it go
Why would you participate in this thread, attention whore
Posted on 11/10/16 at 7:00 am to tigersbb
The interception was good. Hurts knee was down on the fumble scoop. The plays that we're questionable were:
1. No holding called on Hurts TD run. Obvious missed call.
2. Late hit on Devin White. Border line call but considering there was no call when Foster launched himself at a sliding Eing then no call would have been the right move.
3. Intentional grounding in the end zone. Obvious missed call here. He was not outside the tackle box. He took two small steps to the right.
All these greatly affected the outcome of the game. I'm an LSU fan so may e there were calls we got that we should not have but I sure didn't see them.
1. No holding called on Hurts TD run. Obvious missed call.
2. Late hit on Devin White. Border line call but considering there was no call when Foster launched himself at a sliding Eing then no call would have been the right move.
3. Intentional grounding in the end zone. Obvious missed call here. He was not outside the tackle box. He took two small steps to the right.
All these greatly affected the outcome of the game. I'm an LSU fan so may e there were calls we got that we should not have but I sure didn't see them.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 7:02 am to Bayou
So bitches like you will respond.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:11 am to Cheupique
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Please let it go.
They wouldn't let go of our guys. Besides, it CHANGED THE GAME.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:13 am to 1loyalbamafan
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Let it go, its over.
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Why?
The best reason I can come up with is you still have other teams to play that hope all you think about this week is the Bama game.
You realize that none of us actually play in the games right?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:13 am to 1loyalbamafan
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The best reason I can come up with is you still have other teams to play that hope all you think about this week is the Bama game.
Dammitall, a Gump that makes some sense. It's bad enough L'il Nicky's Red Horde beat us once. But this obsession over a game that's already over will be the reason Bama beats us TWICE.
Let it go, for now, and focus on the rest of the season. Bama and their crimson-blind refs are gone, and we won't see them again until next year. So let's shelve this debate until after the season is over and focus on having a tasty cochon de lait in PiggyVille this Saturday.
Then, if our "administration" has both the stones AND the evidence to back up claims of Bama privilege with the refs, then make a very public, very formal and very strong complaint with the SEC. Then follow through and demand answers.
OTOH, if all we (meaning the coaches and administration) are going to do is complain and send in weak sauce videos to the SEC "for review" with no real demand for change, then we should just stop the bitching right now. Instead, accept that calls go for and against you in a game - some go against you more than most - and build a team that can win DESPITE the refs.
This post was edited on 11/10/16 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:19 am to jwill37
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3. Intentional grounding in the end zone. Obvious missed call here. He was not outside the tackle box. He took two small steps to the right.
What is the exact rule?
I watched from an Endzone view and he was (barely) outside of where the Tackle lined up but no outside of where he was after the play started. Which to my understanding is not grounding.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 8:57 am to bayou85
By definition, the "tackle box" extends five yards on each side of the location of the center at the snap. For a reference, the goal posts are a little over 6 yards wide (18'6" as measured to the outside of the posts).
Hurts and the center are half-way between the extra point hash and the left goal post. That puts them over a yard from the left goal post, and thus less than five yards from the right goal post. He throws the ball while he is still inside the right goal post. Thus, he has not traveled five yards and is inside the tackle box.
Hurts and the center are half-way between the extra point hash and the left goal post. That puts them over a yard from the left goal post, and thus less than five yards from the right goal post. He throws the ball while he is still inside the right goal post. Thus, he has not traveled five yards and is inside the tackle box.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:06 am to Thorny
Safety.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 9:09 am to bayou85
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I watched from an Endzone view and he was (barely) outside of where the Tackle lined up but no outside of where he was after the play started. Which to my understanding is not grounding.
Here is the applicable rule:
"I. Quarterback who is not outside the tackle box, and is attempting to save yardage, intentionally throws a desperation forward pass that falls incomplete where there is no eligible receiver. Ruling: Intentional Grounding. Penalty: Loss of down at the spot of the foul. The clock starts at the snap."
Throwing the ball out of bounds in the face of a rush is intentional grounding from inside the tackle box, even when it goes beyond the los.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:30 pm to tigersbb
How did the refs miss this on Fournette's first TD against Ole Miss? #3 on Ole Miss gets tackled. But only Bama catches breaks right?
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:43 pm to tigersbb
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There were two booth reviews , the Hurts fumble which was scooped for a score and the fourth quarter interception. Both were callled for Alabama.
My goodness, there is no one more Tiger fan than I am. But you just need to take your dark sunglasses off when you watch TV. Both of these were absolute 100% correct calls, hands down, no ****ing doubt.
Now the holds on Hurt's run and the sideline catch by our receiver in 4Q that was OOB when he was hit were serious misses by Ref's. Also, the Etling hit.
Try to be objective in your critique or you will have no credibility.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:48 pm to LSUQuackHead
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Not letting go is why we have lost to Arkansas the past two years and no matter the outcome we still lost to Bama. Move on and let's win out.
Ha ha. Wait!!!! You think the discussions of missed calls,passed some imaginary timeline on a message board ,bleeds over into how the team plays?
Bwahahahahaha
Posted on 11/10/16 at 1:50 pm to tigersbb
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There were two booth reviews , the Hurts fumble which was scooped for a score and the fourth quarter interception. Both were callled for Alabama.
Bruh both of the reviews were spot on. Hurts was down and it was an int. When watching a review try to picture it without bias. I know its hard as a lsu fan after the PP int.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:08 pm to Othello
That was barely a hold at best. There is no comparison to the multiple holds on tat one TD play for hurts and that LF TD against Ole Miss.
In the LF TD, our OLineman had proper position in between LF and #3 until #3 was falling to the ground and LF was running past him. Also, the biggest point is that the LSU OL did not have his arm wrapped around #3 at any time.
In the LF TD, our OLineman had proper position in between LF and #3 until #3 was falling to the ground and LF was running past him. Also, the biggest point is that the LSU OL did not have his arm wrapped around #3 at any time.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:11 pm to tigersbb
I don't want our coach to look like he is whining in press conferences.
The only thing that we can do is to make a video of all of the bad calls and distribute it on social media, etc. It's not much but it would help the case and put the SEC in a bad light.
Maybe I will do that.
The only thing that we can do is to make a video of all of the bad calls and distribute it on social media, etc. It's not much but it would help the case and put the SEC in a bad light.
Maybe I will do that.
Posted on 11/10/16 at 2:39 pm to larry289
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y goodness, there is no one more Tiger fan than I am. But you just need to take your dark sunglasses off when you watch TV. Both of these were absolute 100% correct calls, hands down, no ****ing doubt.
I was at the game an did not have benefit of the multiple views of the arm chair fans. I have seen film on you tube and views of both plays were not conclusive. If the calls wer correct , fine.
The bigger picture is over the years the absolute wrong calls such as the Peterson interception, the interference on Doucet at Auburn that was picked up, the personal foul on Vadal Alexnder in 2014, the failure to booth review the completed pass which got BAMA into position to kick the tying FG at the end of regulation in 2016.
The LSU coach and every other coach and AD in the league must exert every level of pressure to get this changed. Its not whining when it continues to happen over and over.
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