re: Somebody inform BK that LSU was the official 2003 national champs

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Because their loss was earlier in the season. That’s poll “logic”. It’s not a reasonable way of ranking teams, but it is what the polls have always done. It wasn’t unique to this situation.

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We can agree to agree with this. There's no perfect system. I think the BCS did exactly what it was design to do. Pick the 2 best teams with the best resume and that's exactly what it did. If it would have chosen the 11-1 team with a weaker SOS over a 12-1 team with a stronger SOS then we can agree the system failed. I remember the media, without ANY opposition, criticizing the BCS for being a failure. The BCS was 100% accurate and later scrapped because the bias of the media didn't have their darling playing in the national champion game. The AP voters proved they have issues with their judgement and character. There are names and labels to describe people like these voters. Here's a few - cheaters for deliberately ignoring the obvious.....Best record vs best SOS vs best common opponent argument...the team that cannot win that argument was chosen CHAMPION. .... Incompetent....for the same reasons as mention above.

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I’ve already explained this on here ad nauseam,

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Even if the evidence backs you up, I see that the argument is made by:

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cbree88

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And I immediately disagree.

One thing people forget is that OU had a better offense (3rd in country) & defense (5th in country) than USC as well as the Heisman Trophy Winner (Jason White). LSU shut them down. LSU would have handled USC as well.

That's asinine. The B(C)S and the championship game should have been abolished immediately as they were ruled invalid by this stupidity.

While we're at it, let's just give every team a participation trophy.

So in 1908 there were 7 official poles. LSU along with Harvard each finished 1st in 1. Penn finished 1st in the other 5. Only LSU finished undefeated and untied as both others each had a tie. Should we claim co champs in 1908? Do we really wanna be Bama? Also in 1958 there were 17 poles by then. We finished 1st in all but 1. That’s right Iowa who ended the season 8-1-1 somehow took 1st in one of the newer smaller poles that had come out by then. Do we acknowledge the Hawkeyes as co champs? 2003 as most know we were the hottest team at the end beating OU in the BCS Championship Game. However do any of you realize there were still 20 active polls still involved in NCAA Football? That’s right and we finished 1st in 12 with USC taking home 7. Oh my math is on and I’m not missing one, OU with 2 losses still took home 1st in 1. They were the one that did shrooms a lot. So does OU claim co champs after losing to us? Down to 14 polls by 2007 and once again LSU only took home top honors in 12. USC and Mizzou each got 1st in the other 2. Do they claim co champs? Would Bama claim it? 2011 we lost in the championship game I thought however we still got 1st in 2 of the 15 poles still operating so were we co champs? Oh and Oklahoma State actually took home 1st in one poll, must be that one that’s does lots of shrooms. So let’s fast forward to 2019, we have to be unanimous that year right? Yes we were, 13-13, even the cats on shrooms seent it baw. So actually today there are still 10 active polls and not too many co shite situations thank god but until I looked up this crap some i didn’t realize. So how do you guys feel about claiming shite like 1908? I think all our other years (yes including 2003) people know who the real champs are. I honestly think that’s why we don’t claim 1908, cause it appears that Penn had a competitive squad and was the real deal. Also didn’t USC have to give back everything from 2003? So if that’s the case then they can’t even claim it anymore. That’s right VACATED!!!!!!

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official poles

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LSU won the BCS National Championship Game
The press did not like that USC was not chosen to play in that game after Oklahoma lost in the conference championship

This eventually led to the CFP 4 teams and now to the CFP 12 teams

The entire 2003 season was played for the champion to be the BCS playoff winner. The AP writers took pen in hand to show their disapproval of the system, surely you don't believe there were not phone calls and conversations to lobby and vote USC champion. The AP lost all credibility and pissed that USC was left out of the championship game.

By the way I agree that USC should have been there but they also did not play in a conference championship game finished 12-1 for the season

LSU finished 13-1 played a tougher schedule


The BCS National Championship Game, or BCS National Championship, was a postseason college football bowl game, used to determine a national champion of the NCAA Division I Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS), first played in the 1998 college football season as one of four designated bowl games, and beginning in the 2006 season as a standalone event rotated among the host sites of the aforementioned bowls.

The game was organized by a group known as the Bowl Championship Series, consisting of the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, Fiesta Bowl, and Orange Bowl, which sought to match the two highest-ranked teams in a championship game to determine the best team in the country at the end of the season. The participating teams were determined by averaging the results of the final weekly Coaches' Poll, the Harris Poll of media, former players and coaches, and the average of six computer rankings. The Coaches' Poll was contractually required to name the winner of the game as its No. 1 team on the final postseason ranking; hence, the AFCA National Championship Trophy was presented to the winning team during a post-game ceremony.

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The entire 2003 season was played for the champion to be the BCS playoff winner. The AP writers took pen in hand to show their disapproval of the system, surely you don't believe there were not phone calls and conversations to lobby and vote USC champion. The AP lost all credibility and pissed that USC was left out of the championship game.

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So it is your contention that the AP was planning ahead to register a protest vote against the BCS when they put USC ahead of LSU for good on October 12 after the Florida loss?

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The Coaches' Poll was contractually required to name the winner of the game as its No. 1 team on the final postseason ranking; hence, the AFCA National Championship Trophy was presented to the winning team during a post-game ceremony.

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And why did they have to do that if the polls were no longer relevant?

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How in the frick does Bama claim so damm many?

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In the 1980s, the Bama SID went back and found every possible claim they could make based on many of the longer list of selectors you quoted. That included some really ridiculous ones like Houlgate in 1941 who had a 9-2 third place SEC Alabama team (and #20 in the AP) at #1. He only claimed suspect NCs pre-WWII knowing Bama would be laughed out the door for making claims from minor selectors in more recent seasons. In any case, he magically found one more title for Bama than ND claimed at the time, which was his goal all along.

There have been selectors added since that time and season since that Bama could have claimed from similarly suspect sources. In a show of inconsistency and so as not to highlight the ridiculous nature of some prior claims, they have not added any new claims since that time other than CFP, BCS, AP and Cosches’ Poll titles.