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re: Some LSU fans are either joking or they apparently have never played baseball.

Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:50 am to
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Had he not made an error then people would’ve been saying it was a good decision.


4 in less than 2 games. Not “an error”.


The sentence can be read two different ways, and giving the poster the benefit of the doubt is only fair. Had he not made "an" error he would have made zero errors. Had he not made "the" error he would have made 4 minus 1, or 3 errors.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:50 am to
Would you rather me say they had really good arms, but couldn’t pitch in the SEC? What’s acceptable to you? The extreme is acting like the sky is falling because we couldn’t hit AF pitching and implying they weren’t any good.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 9:53 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:54 am to
The point is that you obviously don’t know shite about SEC pitching. Look at what Arkansas did. What Ole Miss did. Look at States rotation, Vandys, Florida’s... Hell even Bama’s Friday night guy is already projected to go top five in 2022.

And you compared AF’s pitchers from Sunday to these staffs. omg I’m crying.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 9:55 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 9:58 am to
Yeah because no one was complaining that we struck out 12 times to AF. There was a whole thread on it. The reliever I mentioned struck out 6 in two innings. We barely touched their closer who throws just as hard as anyone on LSU’s staff and with movement. You can laugh all you want. Oh I forgot, LSU only struck out so much because they suck at hitting. Got it. Hey, remember when you thought Helmers couldn’t cut it on the pitching staff so he was removed from it? Yeah you’re a good resource on SEC caliber pitching. You don’t even have any idea what’s on LSU’s team but you know what everyone else has.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 10:01 am
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:00 am to
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Would you rather me say they had really good arms, but couldn’t pitch in the SEC?

You can post whatever you want.
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The extreme is acting like the sky is falling because we couldn’t hit AF

Then I guess it's a good thing that I didn't do that. What's wrong with just saying that we didn't play well against an inferior team and that we need to improve before SEC play? No need to pump up the team that we lost to in an attempt to rationalize a bad loss. And that one bad loss doesn't mean that we can't still be a good team. Again, we don't have to be talking extremes here.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:02 am to
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Oh I forgot, LSU only struck out so much because they suck at hitting.

We've sucked at hitting for the last couple of years.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:03 am to
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Then I guess it's a good thing that I didn't do that. What's wrong with just saying that we didn't play well against an inferior team and that we need to improve before SEC play?


You responded to my posts when I was replying to other people, not you. There’s nothing wrong with doing that, but inferior opponents don’t mean that they can’t throw out good arms on a given day that can even the playing field. Vandy beat Wright St. 1-0 yesterday and struck out 10 times for instance. Inferior opponents don’t mean no talent exists. We would be calling for the coach’s head here, especially had Wright St. scored a couple of runs.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 10:05 am
Posted by Bayouyawyaw
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:04 am to
I agree to some extent, but i dont care what your trying to figure out when your up by one in the 9th put your closer in to finish the game and get the WIN ! I have just had enough of Manure's stupidity.
Posted by deaux
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:08 am to
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dont care what your trying to figure out when your up by one in the 9th put your closer in to finish the game and get the WIN ! I have just had enough of Manure's stupidity.



At this point, you actually have to try hard to be so ignorant as to why Fontenot wasn’t put in the game Sunday.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:12 am to
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Yeah because no one was complaining that we struck out 12 times to AF
What does this have to do with anything? We struck out that many times because our approach was atrocious.
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Hey, remember when you thought Helmers couldn’t cut it on the pitching staff so he was removed from it? Yeah you’re a good resource on SEC caliber pitching.
You’re the one who seems to think PM and Dunn would sacrifice one of our top 5 relievers.

Did you see the stats on what Arkansas did to Texas, TTech, and TCU? Some really really good teams. Ole Miss did almost as good. Florida and Vandy have studs from top to bottom. But sure.. AF’s Sunday guys can compete with them. I’ve heard it all.

ETA: I mean their guys who pitched Sunday. Not Sunday as in their 3rd starter/relievers.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 10:16 am
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:17 am to
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You’re the one who seems to think PM and Dunn would sacrifice one of our top 5 relievers.


Never said that. They said he was in the group of our top 10 pitchers. It wasn’t made up by me. You’re the one who just creates stuff out of thin air and acts like you have a clue. You clearly don’t.

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What does this have to do with anything? We struck out that many times because our approach was atrocious.


Yeah Vandy can’t hit either. 1 run and 10 strikeouts. Their approach just sucks. Maybe they need a new hitting coach or head coach to coach up all the talent that’s there
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:21 am to
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Yeah Vandy can’t hit either. 1 run and 10 strikeouts. Their approach just sucks. Maybe they need a new hitting coach or head coach to coach up all the talent that’s there
Maybe they had a bad approach too. I don’t know and neither do you. LSU did have a bad approach. I watched that game. Are you making the assumption that they faced an SEC caliber pitcher or pitchers?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:26 am to
You realize that SEC caliber doesn’t mean everyone is a 1st round draft grade, right? I think if you can throw 93-94 and 97 and throw strikes then you can pitch in the SEC. I certainly do. They just so happened to choose to go into the military. You do realize that teams have limited scholarships right? There is SEC caliber talent scattered through non SEC teams all over the country, including JUCO.
This post was edited on 2/23/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:29 am to
I just looked at the box score.

Vandy had 8 hits. And the starter they faced was 0-4 last year and isn’t some pro prospect. The reliever is a fifth year senior who’s pitched 18 innings in the last 3 years. Also not a prospect.

Way to go. Great example.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:29 am to
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LSU did have a bad approach.


I have said they did not adjust. The umpire kept giving strikes well off the plate. You know what the relief pitcher did? He kept pounding the same spot repeatedly and struck out 6 guys in two innings. Just because LSU didn’t adjust doesn’t mean that the people they were facing weren’t any good.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:32 am to
I didn’t say anything about their starter and you don’t know how any of the hits occurred. I can look at a box score and tell you they struck out 10 times. It doesn’t give the story of the game. All I was trying to prove was that there is other talent out there. I didn’t say the Wright State pitcher was any good. I was specifically referring to AF who you laughed at because you think they can’t pitch anywhere else.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:32 am to
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I think if you can throw 93-94 and 97 and throw strikes then you can pitch in the SEC. I certainly do
Sure. If that’s the minimum, you can pitch for Kentucky or Mizzou. That’s not a pre requisite for sec every weekend.
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There is SEC caliber talent scattered through non SEC teams all over the country, including JUCO.
Usually because of grades or a want to be drafted after year one. And yeah I know about the 11.7 scholarships. Worst rule in sports. Title IX is an abomination.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:34 am to
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doesn’t mean that the people they were facing weren’t any good.

Well hello strawman. I never said they weren’t any good. You’re the one with the claim they were sec caliber pitchers who we would see week after week. The Mose two guys don’t compare to more than half of the pitching we will see in conference. It’s a simple thing to understand.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3345 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:34 am to
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Sure. If that’s the minimum, you can pitch for Kentucky or Mizzou. That’s not a pre requisite for sec every weekend.



Oh got you. Now we are comparing them to Vandy and Florida’s top three starters and closers or something? Is that the pre requisite for pitching in the SEC every weekend? Now that’s laughable
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85067 posts
Posted on 2/23/21 at 10:35 am to
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I can look at a box score and tell you they struck out 10 times. It doesn’t give the story of the game.
Yet you tried to create a story that Vandy faced some good pitching. They didn’t. That was you not me.
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