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re: Some LSU fans are either joking or they apparently have never played baseball.

Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:28 pm to
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Let’s try this kid who looked good picking a couple balls thrown across the diamond at 1B


He said field ground balls at 1st. Not that he tried him just because he picked some balls in the dirt. You can have an opinion but at least represent it accurately
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:30 pm to
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Not that he tried him just because he picked some balls in the dirt. You can have an opinion but at least represent it accurately
Is the accurate representation really that much better?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3328 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:36 pm to
Let’s just make it sound as bad as possible because PM sucks. Am I doing it right?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:39 pm to
It’s accurate to say PM had never once seen or even known Hellmers played 3B prior to this month. Yet he starts him game 1 where he struggles then starts him again and it’s a disaster. Those are the facts. Defend PM all you want, Mr. Hellmers. But he’s still wrong. It wasn’t a good decision. He didn’t have enough info to even defend the decision.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:44 pm to
You literally said things to just make it seem as bad as possible. “Wanted to try him because he picked a couple balls at first that came across the diamond”. Implying he only played him because of a gut feeling he had and his ego. You had no clue what Helmers was going to play like and even if you did disagree with starting him(which I doubt). You, like others, have tried to imply the kid has never seen a ground ball and only been a pitcher his whole life. They tried him at 3rd and he apparently did well there during that time. After he doesn’t succeed in the game, you want to act like you knew all along. Give me a break. You didn’t know anything. You just want to look for something to complain about.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:50 pm to
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You had no clue what Helmers was going to play like and even if you did disagree with starting him(which I doubt).
I didn’t. And neither did the coach. That’s my point. He was taking a chance not based on anything he knew. And I definitely was against it.
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You, like others, have tried to imply the kid has never seen a ground ball and only been a pitcher his whole life.
Now who is exaggerating to make a point? Now you’re a hypocrite along with being an idiotic Paul apologist. Not sure which is worse.
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After he doesn’t succeed in the game, you want to act like you knew all along. Give me a break.
Two games. Again with the dishonesty. Get it together, man.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:52 pm to
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The guy that started at SS yesterday has a .141 career batting average. I'd say it's time Maneiri accepts that guy cannot in fact handle "the bright lights."


Bianco had 95 career at bats coming into the weekend. That's a little more than 1/3 of a season's worth of at bats in a normal season, with most of them coming in his true freshman season.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I was dead on about Odell

Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3328 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:54 pm to
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I didn’t. And neither did the coach.


He had a better idea than you.

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Now who is exaggerating to make a point?


You’ve tried your hardest to imply the kid isn’t cut out to be an infielder when he apparently was a pretty darn good one in high school.

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Two games. Again with the dishonesty. Get it together, man.


Correct two games. And you lied about PM when he said he was watching field ground balls at 1b. Can you take a guess at why he was taking balls there? Because he’s also a position player
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 3:58 pm to
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He had a better idea than you.
Did he having made the wrong decision? I could say I saw two high school games Hellmers played in and be more informed than PM on this.
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You’ve tried your hardest to imply the kid isn’t cut out to be an infielder
I don’t have to imply anything. Most good college 3B don’t play 3B in high school. They are SS.
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And you lied about PM when he said he was watching field ground balls at 1b. Can you take a guess at why he was taking balls there? Because he’s also a position player
He was sold at being a two way player and not cutting it out on the mound, so yeah, he got a look at 1B because we didn’t have a starter there either. Another freshman had to get a shot there and won it. You’re bringing up shite recruiting now. We can go down that road too if you like.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Did he having made the wrong decision?


I have no clue. A freshman in his first two college games. For all I know he could end up being the starter at 3rd later on.

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Most good college 3B don’t play 3B in high school. They are SS.


And? So are a lot of pitchers and outfielders.

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He was sold at being a two way player and not cutting it out on the mound


What? Morgan won that spot a long time ago. Why do you think Beloso was in the outfield/DH role? PM said that he and AD discussed whether they could afford to start Helmers at 3rd because it would mean taking away one of our top 10 pitchers? You really have no idea what you’re talking about. PM obviously knew he was a two way player because he previewed him as a good offensive player in high school and the potential to be an Austin Bain type player. Yeah he admittedly didn’t know what position he played. We all get that PM does not do much with recruiting. Doesn’t mean he has no clue about anyone LSU brings in.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:16 pm to
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Yeah he admittedly didn’t know what position he played. We all get that PM does not do much with recruiting. Doesn’t mean he has no clue about anyone LSU brings in.
You brushing this off is fricking hilarious.
This post was edited on 2/22/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3328 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:18 pm to
Not brushing it off. It’s obviously worked for him. If SS move around everywhere else then I guess he figures he can place people in positions once they get there.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:20 pm to
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The guy that started at SS yesterday has a .141 career batting average. I'd say it's time Maneiri accepts that guy cannot in fact handle "the bright lights


Remember when Kramer Robertson was a career 220ish hitter then became our starting SS and a 4th round pick?

Yea me neither
Posted by Tangineck
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:24 pm to
Remember when he went 0 for 4 yesterday, again?
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3328 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:27 pm to
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Remember when he went 0 for 4 yesterday, again?


I remember plenty of draft picks doing this
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5807 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:28 pm to
Huck, I agree with your overall statement but the issue hasn’t changed in 10 years. We haven’t had power throughout the lineup since 2009. Have we had an individual power hitter here and there —yes. We just haven’t had the power bats that force the opposition to pitch , instead of pitch around. His recruiting hasn’t changed. He player profile hasn’t changed (5’8” 160lbs , fast, SS in HS). He continues to recruit the same style of player with the mindset that “he will figure it out by mid April”. It’s isn’t working , despite the excellent pitching we have had over the years. You can’t put 3/4 former short stops out there at various positions and make it work unless most of them have some power. The reality is none of them have power. 1/4 ain’t so bad if the one is a three run homer.
Posted by The Ostrich
Member since May 2009
2542 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Remember when he went 0 for 4 yesterday, again?

Uhhhh what's your point?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:36 pm to
No good players, especially MLB players, go 0-fer.
Posted by lsutigermall
Plantation Trace
Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 2/22/21 at 4:37 pm to
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every team has to go undefeated or the coach needs to be fired.



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