re: So Woodward locked up BK with a single 45-minute conversation

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Doby

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Take a lap Doby

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Jamie Howard said on the radio yesterday that when he and his son visited ND last month Brian Kelly told him that Scott Woodward had contacted him.

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If you take BK's comment today at face value, then that WAS the single 45-minute conversation.

The implication is that BK was Woodward's target all along, and the Riley talk was smokescreen. Not saying that's the 100% truth, just saying that if you put those two data points together, that's what BK was suggesting today.

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So Woodward locked up BK with a single 45-minute conversation

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I guess 44 minutes in is when Woody brought up the $9.8 million.

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Just think about that for a minute and the time frame of firing Orgeron and when Scott had a convo with BK.

How could anyone think he was our first choice? Most on this board were clinging to the speculation. That this was in the works for a while, BK refused and Scott had to circle back. Now ppl are saying it was being negotiated with his agent.

SW had to lock this up last minute because Riley feel through and the available options were already signed.

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SW, BK, and LR all have the same agent, apparently. My guess is that Scott and Trace had been working out details for a while, waiting for the right moment to lure Brian Kelly. In fact, Kelly insinuated as much in his interview with Dan Patrick this morning,

It’s safe to assume that Trace Armstrong knew if and what types of job openings Kelly would be interested. Having the same agent helped Woodward get some better insight into that. That relationship probably also helped Trace use the LSU smoke to cover Riley to USC. Yes, I’m making some assumptions here. But if you connect some dots, it makes sense.

90% of the details are worked out through agents going back and forth between parties. This way, the coach can say they didn't actually "talk" to a school until very late in the process.

Guys this is great an all but where are all these Agent SOPs written? I can’t find it anywhere….

Nor can I find coaching search processes via ADs. Seems to me if I were hiring someone I would proceed after multiple candidates were brought to me through recruiters (I.e., agents) and then would move through a series of interviews, methodically and with purpose. Thoroughly vetting each candidate and creating offers associated with a hierarchy. Here is a key, usually the highest paid guy within a recruiting/hiring process was the most sought after…

But blatant facts are weird…I guess all we have to go off of is what parties involved are stating and review personal information distributed by our AD and the correlated timeline. Once you render it down it makes a nice 48 hour roux.

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Brian Kelly told him that Scott Woodward had contacted him. 

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Followed by a wink and a nod?

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and the time frame of firing Orgeron and when Scott had a convo with BK

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When will your morons realize you are not interviewing coaches or signing deals int the middle of the season.

They start with vetting candidates, doing research digging for any dirt or issues, then reaching out to agent to gage Interest. The AD won’t actually talk to the coach until the very end so they are not wrong when they say I didn’t talk to the AD until Sunday or whatever, before that is was our people talking to his people

Is it just me or do you also think BK was being cryptic on the 11/22 video when he quoted Mike Tomlin? Deal had to be in works and BK actually did not deny it!!

According to Brody’s article in The Athletic:

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But one of the first people he reached out to when Orgeron was fired? That was Notre Dame coach Brian Kelly. He gauged his interest, and sources said Kelly thought about it for a little. He called around Louisiana and talked to people he trusted and tried to get a sense of things. And he declined.

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There was little secret these past few weeks of who Woodward wanted. He certainly spoke with his old friend Jimbo Fisher at Texas A&M, who he hired there in 2018. And there was a strong push to land Oklahoma’s Lincoln Riley last week — with a plane full of major boosters even flying for a meeting with Riley that never happened — but by Monday morning, the tune changed. It kept being repeated throughout these six weeks that Woodward wanted a big fish, a landmark coach who turns the tide at LSU.

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Woodward went back at Kelly, the third-winningest active coach in major college football, and he got his man. Brian Kelly is the next LSU football coach.

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Was Lincoln his #1? Does it matter whether or not he was? Lincoln wasn’t my #1 and I didn’t even think about Kelly. Is success more guaranteed with Lincoln or Kelly or my or anyone else’s #1?

The only thing that matters is that Scott got a coach who is probably the best program building coach on the market and a guy who has a chance to win a natty here.