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re: So what we've learned in last two CFP...
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:26 am to Will Cover
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:26 am to Will Cover
Only because television wants that Midwest audience, and it would be justified by Wisconsin being undefeated. But they are not top four.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:27 am to phideauxlsu
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We have a system, it's called Conf Champions. You play all year and win enough you get to play in one, you win you go to playoffs PERIOD. It ain't perfect, but it's better than speculation! it's so simple, thats why it's not happening.
So if being a conference champion is the only metric - what about this hypothetical:
2011 LSU rolls through our incredible regular season, but we LOSE 9-6 in OT to Bama in Tuscaloosa. We don't win our division, don't go to the SECCG, but finish 11-1, with our only loss being in OT, on the road, to the no. 1 team.
Do we deserve to get into the BCSCG? Or, if the playoffs were around in 2011, do we deserve to get a spot in the playoffs, even though we didn't win our division?
Be honest, please.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:27 am to Darius David
quote:In my dreams that would happen. Sorry, I'm 44 years old and have followed LSU my entire life. Besides the gift from the gods in 2007 (and the BCS computers), LSU has never been given anything it didn't have to earn. Not from a human making a judgement call. LSU vs Wisconsin, Ohio State, USC, etc. is going to lose that vote every single time, I promise.
If LSU were one of the four best teams in the end, and didn’t win the sec, they will get in.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:27 am to Chimlim
It was decided on the field. They got it right. Those are the four best teams.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:29 am to CableGuy
Because it was obvious they weren’t top four. Stevie Wonder could see that. LSU would beat that Wisconsin team by at least two touchdowns.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:31 am to champj3
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is winning a conference championship is irrelevant. 2017 Bama & 2016 OSU both get in w/o playing in conf championship.
If the roles were reversed between Ohio State and Alabama, Alabama would still be invited to the playoffs and the reason would have been is that we cannot exclude an SEC conference champion.
That only works for Alabama.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 10:38 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:37 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:if that is the case then why shouldn’t they have been in with only a 6 point loss? Let’s say there had been fluke fumble that Wisky ran back for TD in the last minute. So your say they still would have gotten in? That would have proven they were one of the best 4 teams? Let’s be honest here. The problem with whole damn thing is that it is subjective and being decided by human opinion. This set up is actually worse than the old bowl system. At least that was done by hundreds of voters. This is being done by 13 ppl behind closed doors.
Stop the madness. Wisconsin was in with a win. End of discussion
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 10:39 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:40 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Stop the madness. Wisconsin was in with a win. End of discussion. Why not post this in the other 100 threads crying about it?
Thank you.. People can't even just bitch about it. They gotta twist shite around.. fabricate hypothetical situations that would NEVER happen, then make a separate thread for each one and bitch about them, too.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:43 am to champj3
If I'm an AD, I cancel all tough non-conference home-home series. The committee has proven that shite doesn't matter after saying they did for years. It all comes down to record and "eye test".
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:44 am to champj3
You are so outraged that you waited until today to start this post?
Read through the other previous posts and if you still don’t see that Alabama is clearly a stronger team than Ohio State log off.
Read through the other previous posts and if you still don’t see that Alabama is clearly a stronger team than Ohio State log off.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:57 am to skullhawk
The you’d be a bad AD.
Ohio State in 2016 got into the playoffs because they lost to PSU in a fluke, because they beat Oklahoma in a non-conference game and because they passed the eyeball test. If Ohio State doesn’t crush Oklahoma in the non conference game, then Penn State would have gotten the nod.
There are only three teams deserving of the opportunity but we need a fourth. Bama got it because they had only one loss (Ohio State and USC had two), they didn’t get blown out (Ohio State, Miami and USC did) and there isn’t a soul in the world that would say that Wisconsin is better.
Ohio State in 2016 got into the playoffs because they lost to PSU in a fluke, because they beat Oklahoma in a non-conference game and because they passed the eyeball test. If Ohio State doesn’t crush Oklahoma in the non conference game, then Penn State would have gotten the nod.
There are only three teams deserving of the opportunity but we need a fourth. Bama got it because they had only one loss (Ohio State and USC had two), they didn’t get blown out (Ohio State, Miami and USC did) and there isn’t a soul in the world that would say that Wisconsin is better.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:05 am to ROPO
Given the way Bama has been playing down the stretch, I'd say that Wisconsin could beat them. Yes, they played a light schedule, but they hammered all but two of their opponents. And their loss came in an extra game Bama didn't have to play. I would have taken Wisconsin's 12 wins over Bama's 11. The committee has got to start sending the message that its not ok to drop the most important game in your division.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:06 am to ROPO
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Bama
quote:Maybe not score wise, but that game was nowhere near as close as the score indicated.
they didn’t get blown out
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:10 am to ROPO
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The you’d be a bad AD.
Ohio State in 2016 got into the playoffs because they lost to PSU in a fluke, because they beat Oklahoma in a non-conference game and because they passed the eyeball test. If Ohio State doesn’t crush Oklahoma in the non conference game, then Penn State would have gotten the nod.
Risky. Why rely on beating Oklahoma on the road when I can schedule a P5 team that is perennially around .500? Both scenarios got a team into the CFP. One is drastically easier to accomplish.
USC doesn't have ND on their schedule and Ohio State has Texas Tech instead of Oklahoma come to town, we're debating USC and Ohio State for the 4th spot and Bama finishes 6th.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:13 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:12 am to champj3
Then why play the game. NCAA is money hungry and corrupt.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:17 am to Darius David
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It was decided on the field. They got it right. Those are the four best teams.
you love subjective systems reminiscent of the AP/UPI system huh?
it is more subjective than ever. THAT IS NOT SETTLING IT ON THE FIELD. you get AUTObids for P5 conference winners and computers for 3 wild cards.
USA today thinks you are a moron.
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:19 am to RealityTiger
also in old days or even BCS you had best lose early if you were going to lose. it took time to build yourself back up (save OU in 2003 with such a strong BCS rating) OSU lost early, bama last game and they get in.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:20 am to Fat Bastard
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it is more subjective than ever
Yep. The BCS was invented to alleviate the human bias that was hurting college football. The CFP is bias on steroids.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 11:21 am to skullhawk
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The CFP is bias on steroids.
yep, it is like reality tiger and myself explained. it looks like old AP/UPI polls again just in disguise. lipstick on a pig. ANyone who was around during those old poll days can see it.
Posted on 12/8/17 at 1:26 pm to atltiger6487
NO, as I just stated
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