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So what we've learned in last two CFP...
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:34 am
is winning a conference championship is irrelevant. 2017 Bama & 2016 OSU both get in w/o playing in conf championship.
Question, is it logical to believe that even if Wisconsin had scored last second to beat OSU 28-27 that they still might have missed top 4?
Again, conference championship doesn't matter, it's best 4 teams right? Wisconsin would have had only one top 25 win in this scenario.
At what point does record impact CFP committee decision? If being undefeated trumps all, then come out and say it!
The old eye ball test seems to win out no matter what CFB tries to say!
Question, is it logical to believe that even if Wisconsin had scored last second to beat OSU 28-27 that they still might have missed top 4?
Again, conference championship doesn't matter, it's best 4 teams right? Wisconsin would have had only one top 25 win in this scenario.
At what point does record impact CFP committee decision? If being undefeated trumps all, then come out and say it!
The old eye ball test seems to win out no matter what CFB tries to say!
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Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:35 am to champj3
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is it logical to believe that even if Wisconsin had scored last second to beat OSU 28-27 that they still might have missed top 4?
Stop the madness. Wisconsin was in with a win. End of discussion.
Why not post this in the other 100 threads crying about it?
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:36 am to champj3
For some teams. LSU isn't getting in without winning the SEC.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:36 am to champj3
I do believe Wiscy gets in if they beat Ohio State and Bama is left out.
if there is any ambiguity in the decision though I have learned is that the committee will vote in the teams that will make the most money and garner the biggest audience.
if there is any ambiguity in the decision though I have learned is that the committee will vote in the teams that will make the most money and garner the biggest audience.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:37 am to Hold That Tiger 10
quote:Any undefeated power 5 team is going to be in.
Wisconsin was in with a win. End of discussion.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:40 am to champj3
What did we find out?????
That the big ten hasn't scored a point and got blown out in both games they were in.... maybe that's why they didn't get in this year.....
That the big ten hasn't scored a point and got blown out in both games they were in.... maybe that's why they didn't get in this year.....
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:40 am to Hold That Tiger 10
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Stop the madness. Wisconsin was in with a win. End of discussion.
Wisconsin would have been in if their conference did not have a championship game.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:40 am to champj3
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Question, is it logical to believe that even if Wisconsin had scored last second to beat OSU 28-27 that they still might have missed top 4?
Absolutely. I think it's retarded to have a committee of yahoos pick who they think are the best 4 teams. College football needs a system that lets the teams decide it on the field.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:41 am to TigerNlc
But if conference championships aren't required a la '16 Ohio State and '17 Bama then why didn't Wisconsin get in? Because they lost their last game to the then #8 team? Well, Bama lost their last game as well to the then #6 team so again; why didn't Wisconsin get in?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:42 am to TigerNlc
Wisconsin was in the same boat as Oklahoma: win and your in. OU won, Wisky lost. OU is in, Wisky is out.
I also don’t think Bama got in because of their brand. Bama was dominant all season then faded down the stretch after we beat them up and they lost their LBs. The Committee took that into account. The Bama that plays on Jan 1 will be closer to the dominant team we saw for the first 2/3rds of the season, when they were the best in football.
I reject the notion that this would never happen to LSU. But for it to happen, you need a situation in which the Committee does not hold two of the conference champions in high regard. And, LSU would have to look like the best team for an extended period of the season, with a non-blowout and explainable loss (like Bama did this season and like Ohio State last season losing in a fluke to Penn State).
I also don’t think Bama got in because of their brand. Bama was dominant all season then faded down the stretch after we beat them up and they lost their LBs. The Committee took that into account. The Bama that plays on Jan 1 will be closer to the dominant team we saw for the first 2/3rds of the season, when they were the best in football.
I reject the notion that this would never happen to LSU. But for it to happen, you need a situation in which the Committee does not hold two of the conference champions in high regard. And, LSU would have to look like the best team for an extended period of the season, with a non-blowout and explainable loss (like Bama did this season and like Ohio State last season losing in a fluke to Penn State).
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:46 am to champj3
When did the CFP claim that conference titles are irrelevant? I have heard them state that they arent the main requirement.
That and the scoreboard at Iowa
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The old eyeball test
That and the scoreboard at Iowa
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:46 am to champj3
I think the Argument is why bama over Au? Yes, you can say 3 losses. however, Had bama played Clemson (#1 team) who's to say they would not have had 2 losses like AU in the regular season. So, by playing fresno instead of Clemson, you are somehow better than the team you lost handily to the week before? Alabama didn't have to play Georgia this year either. So they go in by playing weaker teams.
It's totally subjective, none of these teams play close to the same schedule to compare apples to apples.
It's totally subjective, none of these teams play close to the same schedule to compare apples to apples.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:47 am to Chimlim
We have a system, it's called Conf Champions. You play all year and win enough you get to play in one, you win you go to playoffs PERIOD. It ain't perfect, but it's better than speculation! it's so simple, thats why it's not happening.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:51 am to ROPO
So if conference champioship winner's like OSU and USC are left out, and regular season divisional conference winners like Auburn and Wisconsin are left out, WHY do we even bother with tracking them?
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:53 am to champj3
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At what point does record impact CFP committee decision? If being undefeated trumps all, then come out and say it!
The old eye ball test seems to win out no matter what CFB tries to say!
Here is the biggest problem. It discourages good out of conference match ups. If Ohio state had played Murcer instead of Oklahoma, they'd have gotten in. Sets a terrible precedent.
The human element is bad for these match ups because you'll always get favoritism towards the blue blood programs and $$. Should have left it to the computers which could factor in strength of schedule and encourage better ooc match ups and discourage teams from padding the schedule with cupcakes.
This post was edited on 12/4/17 at 9:56 am
Posted on 12/4/17 at 9:53 am to champj3
They would have gotten in, but they aren’t one of the four best teams.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:09 am to champj3
That the CFP pretty much uses the old BCS results? 
That we need at least an 8 team Playoff
That we need at least an 8 team Playoff
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:21 am to ROPO
quote:And all Bama had to do was sit at home, not play / risk a loss, and still get in. Funny how two teams had to 'win to get in' and one didn't even have to make an appearance.
Wisconsin was in the same boat as Oklahoma: win and your in. OU won, Wisky lost. OU is in, Wisky is out.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:22 am to TigerNlc
If LSU were one of the four best teams in the end, and didn’t win the sec, they will get in.
Posted on 12/4/17 at 10:25 am to champj3
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winning a conference championship is irrelevant.
Does UGA get in without winning or playing in the SEC Championship?
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