re: So we have Evans, Cowan, Primeaux, Fontenot, Ware and Benge available?

11 walks and 8 scored begs to differ

Why didn’t we take our pitcher out much earlier when we all could see it was going south fast!!! That cost us the game

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No thanks

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And no more Primeaux please

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Why didn’t we take our pitcher out much earlier when we all could see it was going south fast!!!

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Shores struck out the two batters he faced in the 2nd inning. He then induced a ground out to the first batter he faced in the 3rd. Then the wheels came off quickly. Based on how he started, why would we have anyone ready to go? Some of y'all act like this is a video game where you just have your bullpen ready at all times and can have the premonition to know exactly when a pitcher is going to start to struggle. We actually took a mound visit to stall for more time to get Williams warm. But when it is going great and completely falls apart in three batters, what exactly do you expect to happen there?

Shore's batters faced went like this
1: batter struck out on 1-2 count
2: batter struck out on 1-2 count
3: batter grounded out on 1-1 count
He's basically cruising at this point and it's the 3rd inning. Why would anyone be getting ready to replace him?
4: bater walked on 3-2 count and 9 pitch AB
5: batter walked on 4 pitches (this is when Williams started warming up)
6: batter walked on 3-2 count
mound visit
7: batter doubled on 2-2 count

So when should the move have been made? And when should Williams have started getting warm?

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he threw a shut out inning against this team Friday. shut up

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That’s great but come on we all could see it happening it cost us the game. But it’s true it appears we did not hv any one ready. Sometimes pitches are just off nothing against him. Was not trying to bash the guy.

That is an interesting yet dumb statement.
We walked 8 batters and hit another one, 5 of these walks scored
But yeah pitching was just peachy

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But yeah pitching was just peachy

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I never said it was peachy. But if you told us we score 3 runs in the first inning and they had only scored 6 through the first 7 innings, what would you think the outcome of that game would or should have been?

I am much more concerned with us doing nothing offensively against game 4 pitching than I am that we gave up 6 runs through the first 7 innings. I take nothing away from giving up 4 runs in the 8th when we had effectively given up on the game and were saving pitching for today.

Agreed but we need guys who can throw strikes when it isnt going our way. It seems to be an issue the past couple years that the bull pen doesn't have command past a few arms

People keep talking about walks which is definitely what helped them win last night, but I think they're also underselling how good LR's plate approach was. They only would swing at their pitch. They forced these pitchers to work the entire count, pitch counts up, burn the pitchers, wait for their pitch, and hit it.


They had timely hitting and it immediately rattled the pitchers. Guys like Noot were not throwing bad and some of the takes these hitters were taking was excellent because they were borderline strikes called balls. They had a way better eye for the ball. When they got down in counts, they fouled them off. They rattled our pitchers plain and simple. This team right now looks way better with the bat in their hands. You can throw all the stats you want this is the facts.


On the opposite side, LSU had no approach. They were not sitting on the easy pitches to hammer. Example, the rag arm on the mound that dominated last night threw that flat 88 mph fastball and outside Milam/Hernandez, the hitters were not sitting on it. Absolutely bizarre and horribly management. They're going to do the same thing today. They're going to use their entire BP including starters, and as soon as LSU struggles with someone, they're keeping them on the mound.

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I've already gone through this. It was a 6-3 game through 3 against Arkansas Little Rock day 4 pitching.

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And it makes just as little sense now as all the other times.

Without the walks, especially the ones by Shores, THEY DON’T HAVE LEAD. Probably ever. We’re either up one or it’s tied coming out of the 3rd and they are in a dogfight, not feeling good up 3 and cruising with all the momentum in the world. Pitching, specifically the early walks and runs, set the table for everything that happened after. There’s no way to spin around this. It’s just a hard, cold fact.

I’ve said plenty of times here and other places that it was both the walks and the lack of hits with RISP that killed us. I understand that we loaded the bases multiple times and got one run from it. But the early walks and the free runs they gave away still came first. The entire tone of the game changes without them and there’s no way to predict how it would have played out differently.

But the fact remains- pitching 100% started the snowball downhill.