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re: So LSU MBB isn't ranked and are picked to finished 6th in the SEC
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:13 pm to sicboy
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:13 pm to sicboy
It's been ingrained into the press psyche by Dick Pat and a couple of others that we are the scourge of college hoops, the villains.
And like Pavlovian dogs the rest of the press that covers hoops laps all that up and regurgitates it back out in form of disrespect via not giving us any due praise or favorable reports are rankings.
Total herd mentality at play here.
And like Pavlovian dogs the rest of the press that covers hoops laps all that up and regurgitates it back out in form of disrespect via not giving us any due praise or favorable reports are rankings.
Total herd mentality at play here.
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:14 pm to sicboy
I’d say Wade has a lot to prove after last years underachieving with a veteran team
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:15 pm to sicboy
If it's a "prove it" deal, then I would like to know why Auburn and Tennessee are ahead of us. I would say Kentucky, as well, after their awful year last season, but we all know it's automatic for them to get preseason top 10 billing, even if none of their players had hands.
I just don't see where some of the teams picked ahead of LSU did as much to improve themselves in the off-season as we did. But I think it's great for motivational purposes.
I just don't see where some of the teams picked ahead of LSU did as much to improve themselves in the off-season as we did. But I think it's great for motivational purposes.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:18 pm to Lester Earl
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It’s hard to put a finger on the roster turnover for people that do not follow the team like we do. I get it.
Lots of roster turnover almost everywhere though, just the way the offseason went for majority of teams.
Alabama got lucky to get Shackelford back with Quinerly, but they lost Petty, Jones, Primo, Reese and Bruner. Getting Shackelford back probably put them up at #2 though for pre-season, but not much unlike us.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:19 pm to Lester Earl
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I’d say Wade has a lot to prove after last years underachieving with a veteran team
Trying not to be the tard fan with unrealistic expectations for the team, but this is his 5th season, he has 1 SEC title (I know that's still a big deal) and 2 tournament appearances, 1 Sweet 16 appearance but he wasn't even coaching that team at the end of the season. I like Wade but I feel like we see the same team every year: super talented but undisciplined and have a hard time holding on to leads.
I want to believe...
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:20 pm to Lester Earl
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I’d say Wade has a lot to prove after last years underachieving with a veteran team
I wouldnt call that underachieving at all last year, we certainly didnt get any favors in tournament seeding. We had a nice top group but the depth was obviously not there playing 3 players 34+ minutes a game.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:23 pm to sicboy
Competing for an SEC title just about every year in basketball, coming from where we were is elite coaching. Having championship expectations every year in a sport that is dominated by a few blue bloods is tough.
Wade has put a very fun product on the court every year and I do feel like he is moving in a positive direction.
If you want more than that, I doubt you could name me a realistic coach candidate that would sufficiently satisfy your expectations.
Wade has put a very fun product on the court every year and I do feel like he is moving in a positive direction.
If you want more than that, I doubt you could name me a realistic coach candidate that would sufficiently satisfy your expectations.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:23 pm to thunderbird1100
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Alabama got lucky to get Shackelford back with Quinerly, but they lost Petty, Jones, Primo, Reese and Bruner. Getting Shackelford back probably put them up at #2 though for pre-season, but not much unlike us.
Returns their 2 leading scorers off a S16 & sec championship team
Little different optically
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:25 pm to Lester Earl
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Returns their 2 leading scorers off a S16 & sec championship team
Little different optically
Which is why I said them getting Shackelford back (he was going to leave) is the difference, but that's really the only difference. If it was juts Quinerly coming back in that main group, it's not unlike us getting back Days.
The point was, even the "top" projected teams in our conference have some massive turnover and theres questions galore for them too.
Bama lost 5 of top 8 guys, Arkansas and Tennessee 4 of top 6, Auburn 4 of top 7
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:27 pm to sicboy
quote:Well you’re kind of twisting this to sound as bad as possible.
this is his 5th season, he has 1 SEC title (I know that's still a big deal) and 2 tournament appearances,
This is his 5th season upcoming so we don’t know the results yet.
He made two tournament appearances in the other four seasons, and the entire postseason was canceled in one of those. So he’s made two appearances in the three tournaments that were held since he has been here, and the miss was his first season.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:32 pm to MOT
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He made two tournament appearances in the other four seasons, and the entire postseason was canceled in one of those. So he’s made two appearances in the three tournaments that were held since he has been here, and the miss was his first season.
And the season that the tournament was cancelled we were a shoe in to make the tournament if it happened...
Not to mention we didn't make it in his first year after he come in to an LSU that went 2-16 the year before.. and still made the NIT...
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:34 pm to sicboy
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Trying not to be the tard fan with unrealistic expectations for the team, but this is his 5th season, he has 1 SEC title (I know that's still a big deal) and 2 tournament appearances, 1 Sweet 16 appearance but he wasn't even coaching that team at the end of the season.
season 1: NIT after going 2-16 the previous year
season 2: SEC title, sweet 16
season 3: second best record in SEC, would have made tourny
season 4: third in SEC, made second round of tourny
2018: 4th ranked class in the country. Two 5 stars, two 4 stars
2019: 32nd class in the country. 1 5 star
2020: 4th ranked class in the country. 1 5 star, 3 four stars
2021: 6th ranked class. 1 5 star, 2 four stars, and a four star tranfer
2022: 1 5 star, 1 four star so far
I think Wade is building in the right direction...
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:39 pm to sicboy
After finishing 1st, tied for 2nd, and 3rd last 3 years while being the winningest SEC team over that time, I can understand the prediction. Makes perfect sense.
So dumb. But actually, this team deserves to be a “prove it to me” team because of all the new faces, transfers, and young ones. I guarantee come February this is a team that no one wants to play
So dumb. But actually, this team deserves to be a “prove it to me” team because of all the new faces, transfers, and young ones. I guarantee come February this is a team that no one wants to play
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:41 pm to thunderbird1100
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We had a nice top group but the depth was obviously not there playing 3 players 34+ minutes a game.
Team had three all conference caliber players, plus Days
You build off that & make the rest work
Was definitely mismanaged & led to under achieving
Posted on 10/19/21 at 12:42 pm to Big4SALTbro
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The screams will be so loud as we win
Hopefully Dickie will stroke out and we can be done with him.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:05 pm to sicboy
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I admit I haven't followed the sport lately as much as I used to, so someone get me hype about '21 men's basketball.
This isn't unexpected, at all. Here's why:
1. LSU lost 3 of their top 4 scorers from last year's team. Those 4 accounted for approximately 90% or so of LSU's total scoring. And that team WITH those players was only good enough achieve an 8 seed in the NCAAT and a first weekend exit (though I will also say LSU was under-seeded by at 1-2 spots).
2. The SEC is projected to be a really, really, strong conference this season. Probably anywhere from 6-8 NCAAT teams. And the disparity between the team picked to finish #1 in the conf and the team picked to finish #7 is not that big.
3. While many college basketball teams can say this as well, this is almost an entirely new roster from last season. Days is the only guy who returns that has averaged more than 4 ppg in an LSU UNIFORM. Now, LSU does bring in 3 transfers who have performed at the high major level, along with a solid recruiting class, but there are still a lot of questions as to how those individual pieces will come together on this team. Thus, there is a bit of a "wait and see" approach with this particular LSU team with respect to preseason expectations.
Michigan was ranked 25 in one poll and unranked in another to start last season...they entered the NCAAT as a #1 seed. There is no reason to fret. This just seems "shocking" because most fans PRESEASON expectations of this team are far greater than the national perspective (which has LSU in the range of a top 30-40 team). At lot of this can and will change before SEC play starts in January
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:24 pm to sicboy
This will be the year that we start rebounding.
I feel it.
I feel it.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 1:26 pm to thermal9221
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This will be the year that we start rebounding.
To be fair, LSU has been really good at rebounding their own misses. It's rebounding the other team's misses that has not gone so well.
Posted on 10/19/21 at 3:49 pm to sicboy
quote:he’s had three consecutive tournament teams. That’s been unheard of here for a long time. Now it’s time to make the next step which I’m confident he will do soon
Trying not to be the tard fan with unrealistic expectations for the team, but this is his 5th season, he has 1 SEC title (I know that's still a big deal) and 2 tournament appearances, 1 Sweet 16 appearance but he wasn't even coaching that team at the end of the season. I like Wade but I feel like we see the same team every year: super talented but undisciplined and have a hard time holding on to leads.
Posted on 10/20/21 at 7:40 am to MOT
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Well you’re kind of twisting this to sound as bad as possible. This is his 5th season upcoming so we don’t know the results yet. He made two tournament appearances in the other four seasons, and the entire postseason was canceled in one of those. So he’s made two appearances in the three tournaments that were held since he has been here, and the miss was his first season.
Exactly MOT - and also provided without context that he took over for a damn shite show and had to basically start over from scratch.
I think I've read our SEC record the past 3 years is better than anyone's? If it's not it's right up there and very close.
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