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re: So JD Has The Second Best Season For A QB In LSU History, and Every Other Thread Is About

Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:14 pm to
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1788 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:14 pm to
I can live with JD if he takes his tampon out and stretches the field. We have too many athletes to live in fear of mistakes all game. At some point you gotta be willing to let the ball go. Also he has to learn how to read defenses pre-snap,understand what a blitz looks like,know his quick blitz beating routes,be able to do a basic audible to get into a better play to beat certain blitzes or defenses, etc etc. You can’t just rely on your legs and athleticism without any pre-snap awareness and expect to be successful. My fear is if he doesn’t develop then teams will just scheme against him and his legs
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
56552 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:21 pm to
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The backup is always, ALWAYS better at LSU.
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The backup is always, ALWAYS better at LSU.


well, in some cases this is true

joe Burrow was third string at OSU
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:26 pm to
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JD's legs also basically created our running game. The only reason we did anything of note on the ground was the threat of JD's running (and the occasional Emery superman play)


This makes absolutely zero sense

How does the threat of a run open up a run game?

With Nuss in we had the longest passing play of the season. Next series? The longest running play of the season.

Deep vertical threats establish a run game
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4537 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:27 pm to
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I can live with JD if he takes his tampon out and stretches the field.


It’s not that he’s scared to

He has the inability to
Posted by donRANDOMnumbers
Hub City
Member since Nov 2006
17456 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 5:28 pm to
i want Daniels as starter, but man he is has got to get a vertical passing game
Posted by dmatt2021
South LA
Member since Aug 2021
1788 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:12 pm to
No his arm can physically throw the ball down field he is scared to death to make a mistake and won’t do it even when he is staring at single coverage. He did it like once or twice this year we all got excited those games thinking he was finally gonna turn it loose then he went right back into his shell an became scared to death again.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 6:30 pm to
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Also, only JR had close to the WR talent Daniels had in depth.


Y'all are smoking some shite. Davey had Josh Reed and Micheal Clayton. Mauck had Clayton, Henderson, and Skyler Green.
Posted by s2
Southdowns
Member since Sep 2016
6378 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:39 pm to
whatever...

how bout we start Nuss in the bowl game and see how the Tigers play.

Jayden has the angle fixed and next season Kelly picks the starter for game #1 2023.



opinions here are like a free-for-all.



Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79436 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:47 pm to
We’ve had exactly 1 QB put up modern numbers.

“In LSU history” is meaningless
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 7:52 pm to
I can't understand what is so hard to understand about this. He can't throw it accurately down the field. A lot of times he sails the ball out of bounds when attempting to throw it down the field. Some people just seem to think he can overcome that.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
7047 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:14 pm to
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Also, only JR had close to the WR talent Daniels had in depth.


And one could argue all of them had better O-Lines and RBs than Daniels
Posted by prepsportsallday
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2013
3666 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:32 pm to
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Why couldn't Daniels make that leap? I bet he could.


Man! There are level headed people here. Good job EZE Tiger Fan!
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4683 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:36 pm to
Nothing against him, but I don’t see him making the leap Burrow did and have the numbers he did. His improvement in pre and post snap reads, throwing “on time”, accuracy and the biggest of all, get out of his own head and actually let the ball fly, are areas he would have to hade drastic improvements in. He would have to more than double his TD’s and almost double his total yards, don’t see that happening when you have that many things to correct. Burrow had those traits and knew those concepts, he just needed the offense to change and it did, the rest is history.
Posted by DasBoot25
Breaux Bridge
Member since Dec 2021
27 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:46 pm to
If you take out the UAB NM State and Southern games JD is an avg 65.6 QBR. If that’s any where close to our history books then it isn’t shining the light on him, its shining the light in how bad our QB’s have been. Idk how many of you look at analytics but they aren’t good. He’s not accurate outside of 30 yards. He “doesn’t make mistakes” because he makes one read and runs. This isn’t what you think it is. And when burrow had his shite year in 2018 I was there saying give him a year we will be ok. The kid isn’t good. He’s regressed every year he’s played. Congrats you beat bama (the worst version of bama in a decade)
Posted by Mufasaking47
Member since Oct 2022
123 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:48 pm to
Is jd comes back and the rest of the quaterbacks stay than I don't think we really need another quaterback
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
30775 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:49 pm to
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Daniels had a better season than Burrow did in 2018.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY shite! You compare 2 different offenses and a play caller who would have made Les proud non Ensminger. All of it was under center in 2018.

Just stop saying stupid shite like this. It is not remotely a legit comparison.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23544 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 8:58 pm to
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So, what makes everyone here think Daniels won't improve in the areas he is lacking?



It could be argued that he has peaked, and considering he’s been starting for four years and the biggest knock on him is he doesn’t make reads fast enough is concerning. After 4 years of starting and you’re still struggling to make reads, that’s an issue. Not saying he can’t improve in that area but it’s a pretty big concern seeing that he plays the QB position.
He changed teams and systems from a year ago. And he was CLEARLY looking for Boutte to be the primary target, at least early on. But Boutte was dropping stuff. 2 clear TDs against Fla State, a few more drops in the next few games.
By midseason, Daniels had found Nabers, and then Taylor emerged as a go-to by late season.

People bitch about Daniels, but against A&M for example, Lacy killed 2 drives with drops on 3rd down, and Jenkins dropped a TD (which I still say was a TD).
Posted by CleanSlate
Member since Nov 2020
2305 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:33 pm to
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Williams is a walk on level talent who will be exposed without JD and Cain is bigger and very slow. There are no bell cow SEC backs on this roster except apex Emery (which we never got, sadly


First off the fact that slow is in your username is very fitting. Williams is far and away the best back on the team. Who cares that he was a walk-on? Let me guess, Stetson Bennett is overrated in your eyes? Calling Emery the apex should be a bannable offense. You said we never saw that from Emery, why do you think that is? The truth is you only like Emery because he was a five star. You need to accept the fact that not everyone reaches their full potential. For example, I’m sure your mother had high hopes for you, but that didn’t stop you from being a total disappointment. You should consider deleting this post, if your children may get picked on one day once kids find out their father has special needs.
Posted by Iam_PrinceAkeem
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2011
3382 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:36 pm to
The want the Joe Burrow effect again a Qb who can sling it around even though Nuss is a turnover machine they don’t care. Give me JD5 any day a true dual threat who takes care of the football. Give him another year with his recievers and coaches and I think he’ll have a Heisman type year.
Posted by ellis197575
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2014
1414 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 9:41 pm to
You ask what makes some believe JD5 won't improve.

For me, I don't think he improves because this was his 4th year as a starter. Also, I watched Nuss, with MUCH less experience, make better throws. Wr's didn't have to always comeback to the balls Nuss threw. Its apparent Nuss has a much stronger arm. As painful as it was, I watched film breakdown of the game and saw Nuss throw passes before the WR ever got out of his break. That shows better "command" of the offense. In one play, I saw Nuss do what I been complaining about with JD5 all season. Nuss got pressured, broke the graspof the defender, rollout the right, AND LOOKED DOWNFIELD and threw a TD. JD5 would've ran and never looked downfield. While many are happy when runs, they loose site of the bigger play to be had if he scrambled to allow WR's to get open. Its what Bryce, Stetson, Hendon, and a few other QB's are so good at. They scramble to hit open WR's, not to pick up short plays.
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