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Posted on 11/12/25 at 2:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Because future coaches are watching.
Tell them very publicly they get bks buyout as their signing bonus when we fire him for cause.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:28 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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it seems to put LSU and the state in a difficult position to defend.
Exactly why Landry jumped in and told him to go F himself, immediately. Woodward correct action should have been to walk out and go to BOS and get proper documents of approval, then draft a letter of termination .
Instead, he went and ran his mouth and, in turn, put LSU and the STATE OF LOUISIANA on the hook for the buyout in full.
Maybe now, the complete group of MORONS on the rant can understand why Landry had to immediately put a buffer between Woodward and the state. Landry and company know the only way there is a shred of hope to lower buyout amount, is to seperate us from Woodwards actions and maybe claim he wasn't acting thr legal channels as demanded in the contracts.
Now you know why his attorney thinks hes owed all, and we offered a lower (30M), using our shaky leverage
Posted on 11/12/25 at 3:57 pm to OceanMan
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Not sure how you let him out the room without agreeing that his termination agreement is pending and that compensation will be status quo until that is determined...with arbitration/mediation included.
There’s a pretty simple and plausible (IMHO) answer to this question: Maybe they just didn’t actually intend to fire him with cause.
That’s basically what the lawsuit alleges. It says that in the meeting (with Woodward, Verge, and others) when he was terminated, he was told that the termination was without cause. It notes that the press release that same day announcing Kelly’s firing cites on-field success as the reason. It says Kelly’s representatives spoke to Verge, Cromer, and Laborde the next day, and that they confirmed again at that time that he was being fired without cause and that they would honor the buyout.
Then Woodward was fired on 10/30, and the lawsuit does not allege any further acknowledgement by LSU after that time. Is it that hard to imagine a scenario where LSU’s intentions changed after Landry’s remarks, Woodward’s firing, and the installation of the new system President?
If LSU didn’t intend to fire him with cause initially, there would have been no reason to memorialize anything related to cause. The baseline is his contractual buyout, and if they can’t reach an agreement then it just defaults back to that.
There may be more to the story and what we know right now is certainly skewed towards Kelly’s side, but I don’t find this scenario very hard to believe at all.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 4:46 pm to lostinbr
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That’s basically what the lawsuit alleges.
Kelly is a dishonorable prick I don’t care what he alleges. He’s a liar.
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There’s a pretty simple and plausible (IMHO) answer to this question: Maybe they just didn’t actually intend to fire him with cause.
I think you are right, but I also think he knows he should have been, which is why they entered settlement discussions.
My personal opinion is that he is trying to use the situation that LSU wanted to avoid (the ugliness of firing with cause) to get more than what he bargained for in the original contract.
You and I had an exchange regarding the PV of the buyout offer that I considered pretty eye opening, and appreciated the dialogue. It seems like it was actually a very fair offer. The value of his mitigation clause is about $15M. Given his duty to mitigate he would basically go over that with any HC job. To me, that implies he is actually trying to renegotiate to get more than what he originally had.
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There may be more to the story and what we know right now is certainly skewed towards Kelly’s side, but I don’t find this scenario very hard to believe at all.
I appreciate your comments and find most of what you say reasonable and logical. I’ve got to run to kids football but look forward to future discussions with you
Posted on 11/12/25 at 7:48 pm to LSUFanHouston
This circus has more rings than Barnum & Bailey.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:23 pm to lsucoonass
A winning season? We have to beat Arky for that to happen. 6-6 at worst. 7-5 at best.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
Just STFU. You’re blowing this out of proportion.
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:42 pm to go ta hell ole miss
only to people that don’t understand law. our next coaches agent understands law. so rest your simple mind
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:37 pm to moneyg
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LSU doesn't want to pay this out over time. It wants to pay a lump sum now.
I disagree. I think LSU is fine paying it out over time. It’s Kelly that wants the lump sum. If Kelly gives LSU a good deal, then LSU would be willing to pay the lump sum now. If Kelly doesn’t give LSU a good deal in the lump sum, then he’s gonna have to collect his checks as contracted and also look for work. And if he finds work, that income will be subtracted.
It’s Kelly that wants the lump sum now and mitigation removed. LSU will only be fine with that if it’s a deal that’s too good to pass up.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:53 pm to OceanMan
Terms of separation should have started first then
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:54 pm to uptowntiger84
I’m talking collectively (his whole tenure here)
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:19 pm to wadewilson
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LSU did not fire Kelly. The LSU statement uses the word "separation". A firing would be a termination.
This argument, and a lot of what OceanMan is doing too, are like sovereign citizens arguing they are traveling and not driving.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 2:33 am to LSUFanHouston
Kelly should consider accepting the $30 million to uphold his integrity and benefit LSU. He dont give a @$&% cuz he is an unlikable wretch
Posted on 11/13/25 at 5:10 am to LSUFanHouston
Not fired or suspended? That’s wha desperate lawyers are saying. Nonsense. LSU simply did not dot the dots and cross the t’s but the idiot AD did fire him.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:32 am to JPLSU1981
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I disagree. I think LSU is fine paying it out over time
I agree they are "fine with it". But, they pretty obviously want to get this behind them.
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It’s Kelly that wants the lump sum. If Kelly gives LSU a good deal, then LSU would be willing to pay the lump sum now. If Kelly doesn’t give LSU a good deal in the lump sum, then he’s gonna have to collect his checks as contracted and also look for work. And if he finds work, that income will be subtracted.
Like I said. It should be an easy sell if both parties are reasonable because both parties would want it.
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It’s Kelly that wants the lump sum now and mitigation removed. LSU will only be fine with that if it’s a deal that’s too good to pass up.
Under the assumption that LSU doesn't have some other reason to believe Kelly is not owed all of his money, LSU will settle for the present value of that 54M. It won't wait for a "deal that's too good to pass up."
Posted on 11/13/25 at 7:40 am to LSUFanHouston
quote:Perhaps not. But they are far smarter than you credit them as being. One would imagine Kelly's team won't be so assuming though.
the people who run LSU / the state are NOT the smartest people in the room
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:20 am to lsucoonass
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Terms of separation should have started first then
How does that work exactly? You got your head coach suing you in the middle of the season? Who coaches the team?
There were only 3 options 1) pay the full buyout 2) pay him nothing 3) have him pay you
Do some of you not think that attempting to settle the contract is a better option than firing for cause? There is no mechanism for that in his contract, no language around mutual separation. Most coaches in this arrangement settle the contract, because it is actually mutual.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 8:21 am to paulb52
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Not fired or suspended? That’s wha desperate lawyers are saying. Nonsense.
It is what Kelly’s lawyers are saying.
Posted on 11/13/25 at 9:02 am to moneyg
The program is a bad joke.
This post was edited on 11/13/25 at 9:03 am
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