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re: So a year long suspension isn't enough for Alleva?

Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:26 pm to
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i would assume that if LSU dismissed him from the team, they in essence released him from his scholarship as well, especially if they dismissed him permanently. there's no way they would have the authority to dismiss a player and then tell him where he can and can't go. completely different from a player requesting a release on his own behalf.





He still couldn't play in 2012 at other FCS schools, which is why the focus is on the number of failed tests being 3.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:27 pm
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:27 pm to
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Festus


The drug policy for LSU has been posted in the sticky'd thread and in the SEC rant.
It states when test number 3 is failed, the athlete is suspended for a year, with possibility of losing scholarship.

The argument from everyone else is that it could be more than 3.

So I ask why he was never suspended for a year then.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:30 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:27 pm to
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i would assume that if LSU dismissed him from the team, they in essence released him from his scholarship as well, especially if they dismissed him permanently. there's no way they would have the authority to dismiss a player and then tell him where he can and can't go. completely different from a player requesting a release on his own behalf.


I think if he sat out a year this is true, but if he tried to enroll now they'd have to release him. LSU had to release Elliot Porter for him to be able to sign with Kentucky, even after they told him they didn't have a scholly for him.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:28 pm to
Are you retarded. I said I'm sure he can stay at LSU if he wants to be a student for the next 2 years and graduate form LSU. NO football at LSU. Are we clear on my stance?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:29 pm to
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The drug policy for LSU has been posted in the sticky'd thread and in the SEC rant.

My question to you, is how do you know that there are not other factors in addition to the 3rd drug test?
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:30 pm to
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He still couldn't play in 2012 at other FCS schools]which is why the focus is on the number of failed tests being 3

there is no reason to believe he failed more than 3. get off that. sure, you can try to think in terms of "what ifs," but we would have heard much more from the story if it was 4 failed tests because he would be ineligible to play anywhere per NCAA rules for a 4th failed test, and no one has even hinted at that. obviously if people think he's going to mcneese if the lsu thing can't or won;t work out, he didn't fail 4 tests
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:32 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:30 pm to
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Are you retarded. I said I'm sure he can stay at LSU if he wants to be a student for the next 2 years and graduate form LSU. NO football at LSU. Are we clear on my stance?



We are quite clear on your stance that you have promoted as the absolute truth that can't be contested in any way, shape, or form because you said it and you said it alone. You have made that crystal clear.
Posted by fastedLSU
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:31 pm to
Ok good.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:31 pm to
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there is no reason to believe he failed more than 3. get off that.


I never said that. And I'm really waiting on you to show us where I did. I've continued to state that anything above 3 is pure speculation without support.

So please get off trying to put words on my mouth.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:32 pm to
Then that's different. But now we're reaching. Based off of CLM and Allevas comments, they were trying to help him all summer with his problem.

That sounds like drugs to me

RP's whole deal was blasted to the public, idk why they wouldn't say if TM did something else.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:33 pm to
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To clarify: Tyrann Mathieu has the option to go to LSU as a student. LSU is not speculating on his football future.
Posted by StinkBait72
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:33 pm to
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anything above 3 is pure speculation without support.


Just as much speculation as this being #3 and all 3 only being for forms of Mary Jane. We don't know...let the big boys getting paid to make decisions on this do their job.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:34 pm to
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Just as much speculation as this being #3 and all 3 only being for forms of Mary Jane. We don't know...let the big boys getting paid to make decisions on this do their job.




I said on like page one or two I've heard adderal or some type of ritalin type drug as well. Certainly would make him different than the vast majority of college students.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:34 pm to
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Just as much speculation as this being #3 and all 3 only being for forms of Mary Jane. We don't know...let the big boys getting paid to make decisions on this do their job.


It's drug policy. Not Mary Jane policy IIRC.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:35 pm to
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Then that's different. But now we're reaching. Based off of CLM and Allevas comments, they were trying to help him all summer with his problem.

That sounds like drugs to me

And I'm the one reaching?

Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:35 pm to
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I never said that. And I'm really waiting on you to show us where I did. I've continued to state that anything above 3 is pure speculation without support.

So please get off trying to put words on my mouth.

then why would you say
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He still couldn't play in 2012 at other FCS schools

????

you do know LSU is an FBS school right? He can transfer right now to an FCS school (McNeese for example) and play this year. If he failed a 4th drug test, he would be ineligible to play at all by the NCAA. That's why I said you said that or at least implied that. Either you don't know the difference between an FBS and FCS school or you're implying he failed more than 3 drug tests and wouldn't be able to play at an FCS school because of that.
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:36 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:37 pm to
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you do know LSU is an FBS school right? He can transfer right now to an FCS school (McNeese for example) and play this year. If he failed a 4th drug test, he would be ineligible to play at all by the NCAA. That's why I said you said that or at least implied that. Either you don't know the difference between an FBS and FCS school or you're implying he failed more than 3 drug tests and wouldn't be able to play at an FCS school because of that.



I meant FBS. Sorry for the confusion. McNeese isn't FBS.

shite, why can't we just go back to D1.
Posted by cas4t
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:37 pm to
It's been pretty clear that it was drugs. You don't think LSU would correct the media for stating drugs if it wasn't
Posted by StinkBait72
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:38 pm to
But he is different, he represents his school in the national spotlight daily. He also receives a free education, food, and a place to sleep provided by the same folks who make ask him to follow a few simple rules....Do not use ILLEGAL substances while on our football team. The fact that others do it has no bearing especially considering a good bit of them have parents footing their bill. If that parent wants to drug tests their child for them to continue to earn tuition is that a problem?
Posted by Tiger Authority
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:38 pm to
It was. Why is that the issue?
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