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re: So, "The Death Valley argument"

Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:41 pm to
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After last night we should steal their rock just to frick with them.

Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:49 pm to
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And then the Bengals stole it from the saints but changed it from dat to Dey.
That's not exactly true either. The Who Dat/Who Dey thing dates way back to minstrel shows way back to when they were performed on showboats on the Mississippi - New Orleans at the south end, Cinncinatti on the north end.

When I was kid, I remember my dad spontaneously responding breaking into a "who dat say who dat when I say who dat?" response when my mom asked who dat was on the other side of a door in my childhood home when my dad knocked.

My dad was born in 1917 in the vaudeville era.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
5073 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:52 pm to
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I’m 76 years old and lived in the stadium when I went to LSU. I don’t really remember which is correct but they’re both true!
my father also lived in Tiger Stadium. He is 77. Says that yall would go to the games in yall pajamas
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 10:54 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78275 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:53 pm to
I heard a "Who dat" cheer at a middle school game in New Orleans in 1977.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10102 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:53 pm to
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I’m 76 years old and lived in the stadium when I went to LSU.
I'm not quite that old, but I lived in the stadium dorm longer than anybody, hence my screen name.
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13383 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:53 pm to
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Clemson was Death Valley before LSU


Ill concede that, but its the same as "Mobile started mardi gras NOT New Orleans"

Factually correct, but who the frick cares. Noone thinks of mobile when they hear Mardi gras and noone outside of South Carolina would see the two and call clemson the real death valley
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
50977 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Sure Dylan wrote “All Along the Watchtower”, but that’s a fricking Hendrix song now.
If you've never heard it, there's a version of it covered by Robin Trower, who was lead guitarist with Procol Harem. It's really good.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:56 pm to
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think part of the confusion is there is also a Baton Rouge in South Carolina, believe it or not. About 100 miles from Clemson
considering nobody knows that, I don't think that's part of the confusion at all.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10102 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:57 pm to
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I heard a "Who dat" cheer at a middle school game in New Orleans in 1977.
That's about when I first heard it at an LSU basketball game.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78275 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 10:59 pm to
I was a little kid. I had no idea what it meant, but it stuck with me.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3750 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:03 pm to
themachinist Since that I can prove 1960, and it is in the first LSU football media guide by 1962.

Deaf Valley the first I can prove is 1983/4 range.

The sign put up in Tiger Stadium said Death Valley, later it is changed to Welcome Death Valley. There are pictures of this sign on the net and in LSU football books.

But I know people who were at LSU in the 1930's, 40's and 50's all said it was called Death Valley.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29858 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:04 pm to
Considering the fact that every media publication and online outlet consistently ranks tiger stadium as the premiere college football stadium, and hardest place to play in any sport in the world, I'd say weve earned dibs on the death valley moniker.

If you want it, take it. But when random person in BFE hears death valley, they think LSU.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10102 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:05 pm to
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I was a little kid. I had no idea what it meant, but it stuck with me.
The first time I heard it was at an LSU basketball game. There were about 12 or 13 black guys sitting by themselves at the top of the arena chanting it and I thought it was the funniest thing I ever heard.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3750 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:14 pm to
Stadium Rat

Who Dat, LSU already has a record out on Who Dat in 1979, still have my copy.

How it got to LSU is this Alcorn state started to use in in 1978 and then Southern, I heard Southern play in person in 1979, and LSU picked it up that same year.

I also have a copy of the 1980 LSU version of Who Dat.

The line who dat likely came from out of Hollywood, which means the saying dates from a passe era, may go back to the early 1900's
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
10102 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:22 pm to
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The line who dat likely came from out of Hollywood, which means the saying dates from a passe era, may go back to the early 1900's
Not sure why you think it came out of Hollywood. but it's from vaudeville from early 19th century.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3750 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:29 pm to
That it came out of vaudeville is very likely, but to be picked up in 1978 by Alcorn state is likely from one of the many films out of the 1930's and early 1940's out of Hollywood and answering the phone on film.

There is a boom of movies from the 1930's picking up on the old stuff used around the 1900's.

Ted Healy and the 3 stooges are based on the same old vaudeville acts, just changed to the 1930's style.
This post was edited on 8/31/25 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Tigergreg
Metairie
Member since Feb 2005
24499 posts
Posted on 8/31/25 at 11:59 pm to
It sure didn't have the feel of "Death Valley" for the visitors. Not intimidating.
Posted by Tigershine
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2015
2024 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:12 am to
True, is Me and Bobby McGee Kris Kristoffersen or Janis Joplin?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51040 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:14 am to
The toy cannon on a dolly wins it for them IMO.

Imagine how intimidating that must be as an opposing player.
Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
5559 posts
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:20 am to
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How it got to LSU is this Alcorn state started to use in in 1978 and then Southern, I heard Southern play in person in 1979, and LSU picked it up that same year.


Are you referring to Neck??
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