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Should we even be upset about LSU basketball?

Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:16 pm
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1636 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:16 pm
Look at what MM had to do to overcome the player losses. Is it even feasible to think that another coach, given the obstacles, would be more successful?

Being disappointed is expected. I had high expectations for this team going into the season. Then they started 12-0, I was over the moon.

The problem for me is, they are simply not competitive. No LSU basketball team should ever lose by 40 to anyone.
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
8675 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:20 pm to
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Is it even feasible to think that another coach, given the obstacles, would be more successful?

Yes. This season has been an abject failure. Even the most optimistic fan should be questioning whether McMahon has the ability to turn it around.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30234 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:20 pm to
Yes we should be upset that we had a coach that was constantly getting us into the NCAA tournament and had us on an upward trajectory from there was fired for basically nothing....then we hired what we have now.
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3445 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:21 pm to
I'm not. I am a die hard LSU fan but I feel like its been a long time since our mens basketball team has been worth a damn. I loved WW and with they way it all went down I just dont care anymore about MBB. When I go on the rant and see ohter teams making fun of our MBB team I could care less. In my opinion is baseball season!

Now if this was happening to our baseball team which is historically one of the best programs ever then I would be in full meltdown mode!
Posted by DiamondDog
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2019
12793 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:23 pm to
LSU doesn't care about basketball or they would be pumping football type money into the program.

I'm guesstimating LSU needs to invest $75-100M into that program and facilities over the next 5-7 years to get it where it needs to be to compete nationally.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
9889 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:24 pm to
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had us on an upward trajectory


LSU SEC record by year:
2018–19: 15-2
2019-20: 12-6
2020-21: 11-6
2021-22: 9-9
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17401 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:26 pm to
No we shouldn’t be. Anyone who thought this season was going to go in any other direction is delusional. WW really hurt this program and the affects will be felts for a couple to few more years.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30234 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:27 pm to
21-22 was a disappointment, but I think everyone knows that 22-23 was going to be a much better year with what Wade had coming in.
Posted by jb21lsu
NWLA
Member since Mar 2018
2883 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:28 pm to
Yes. Any team that continues to perform like this should get the ire of fans.

Did he come into an ideal situation? No he didn't.

Should the men's team have shown some type of improvement by now? Yes it should.

His recruiting so far is subpar.

He said the he would have left in the first half. He knows is product is shite.

Recruiting and product must improve exponentially or he will be shown the door before the end of year 3.
Just my .02.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30234 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:28 pm to
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The LSU AD really hurt this program


FIFY

Wade isn't even going to be punished by the NCAA....he'll be rebuilding another basketball program in a few short months.

LSU will be languishing with what we have now.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:30 pm to
I think you can both understand he was battling an uphill climb and also be upset about the way he has handled that climb.
Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
7203 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:31 pm to
Yes it’s a representation of our school.
Don’t care about all the reasons of why there is failure. It’s a Failure.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
17401 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:32 pm to
Will Wade gave Scott Woodward no other choice. WW fricked up and got caught. These are the consequences for WW’s actions, not SW. Unfortunately LSU has to pay the price now.
Posted by PhillyTiger90
Member since Dec 2015
11638 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:32 pm to
Complete apathy right now

I know we have to give McMahon some more time but these blowouts are pretty concerning
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:34 pm to
Anyone putting really lofty expectations on this team was always a bit off course. After the Arkansas game, I was feeling pretty confident that we'd at least be competitive in most, if not all, of our SEC games. But in no universe should we be THIS bad.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:35 pm to
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was fired for basically nothing....


I couldn't possibly agree more. I mean we had this great coach that was a practically a shoe-in for at least the final 4 or maybe even a natty and what happens?

He was calmly sitting at his desk balancing his wife's checking account, paying a few of her bills and BOOM he gets fired for no reason. What is it with that?
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:35 pm to
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but I feel like its been a long time since our mens basketball team has been worth a damn.

Yeah, gotta go all the way back to the year 2022.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40201 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:37 pm to
You can be upset, but you should not be surprised.

By taking so long to rule, the NCAA is doing much more harm to our program than it would by simply just issuing sanctions and moving on.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34712 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:41 pm to
I'm 30 so lsu has been shite at basketball my entire adult life except for Will Wade years

I'm upset that we fired him over what's legal now. But more apathetic than anything. It just doesn't look like we give a frick about men's basketball
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34096 posts
Posted on 2/14/23 at 12:42 pm to
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Look at what MM had to do to overcome the player losses.


And he overcame those.

LSU was picked to finish 8th in a conference that was expected to be among the toughest in the country. The general consensus was this roster was good enough to be a NIT team and, potentially, had an outside shot at a NCAA Tournament bid. Yet, almost daily, we have someone come in and say "leave Matt alone. Look what he had to overcome" as if he entered the season with only 8 players on a roster comprised of three benchwarmers from Murray St., Chubby from Teenwolf, Steve Urkel, Jackie Moon, Air Bud, and Adam Miller.

quote:

Is it even feasible to think that another coach, given the obstacles, would be more successful?


Yes. Jerome Tang, Dennis Gates, TJ Otzelberger (last year) ALL had to replace as many, if not more, players in their first seasons. Yet, they managed to win. I think in the SEC alone there are at least 12 coaches who would have been more successful this season that McMahon.

He did not have unreasonably high expectations going into the season...and he has fallen WOEFULLY short of even those. He's already tied the longest losing streak Trent Johnson ever had at LSU and he's three away from tying Jones' longest losing streak at LSU. And he's doing it in convincing fashion. 12 straight losses. 11 by 10+ points.
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