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re: Should our compliance office lessen the penalty for positive marijuana test

Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:12 pm to
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:12 pm to
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Let's not play with semantics.
No LSU is not the law. But we are both preparing these kids for the future and keeping up with NCAA regulations.
Do you have a job, do you get drug tested? Chances are if you work in the corporate world, the answer is yes. And it doesn't matter if the state you live in has legalized marijuana or not. If you work for a corporation and live in Denver, you are upheld to the same standards the rest of the country is. You fail the test, you get fired, legal or not.
Let's not forget that these are kids and we are not JUST trying to win football games.

Yes we are aware private companies can drug test. We are aware that college football programs can drug test. The question is, should LSU football? The answer is no. It doesn't matter if the corporate world in Denver drug tests. It matters what other college programs are doing and it matters what is mandatory for LSU to do. If LSU is not compelled by the NCAA to test for pot, then it's only hurting itself. College football programs aren't responsible for preparing players for life in the corporate world. If they want to do that, they can, but it won't help the team in any meaningful way.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:14 pm to
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Yes, we want em high, chilled out, slow thinking and unable to quickly process information and their assignments during a game.


I'd assume a stoned player would be benched just like a drunk/hungover one.
Posted by Mayhawman
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:23 pm to
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The entire student body isn't in the national spotlight representing LSU.
LOL.
There wouldn't be a spotlight if the school didn't shine it with suspensions.
It's an issue because folks like you want it to be.
Posted by GulfstreamTiger
Sondheimer Louisiana
Member since May 2017
796 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:29 pm to
If you were an lsu football player would you need to smoke weed?

Nope me neither.


But I really know the value of the experience and not some fricktard wanna be.
Posted by joechristoppher77
Ruston
Member since Apr 2006
5321 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:44 pm to
With LSU AG about to start growing it, I guess you could just put all those problems players in horticulture, then blame the air. Problem solved
Posted by Delmore1951
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 1:51 pm to
No. they are illegal. No part of sports
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79926 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 2:45 pm to
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Do you have a job, do you get drug tested? Chances are if you work in the corporate world, the answer is yes. And it doesn't matter if the state you live in has legalized marijuana or not. If you work for a corporation and live in Denver, you are upheld to the same standards the rest of the country is. You fail the test, you get fired, legal or not.



This what people, in their zeal to defend this, don't seem to want to understand.

Alcohol is legal as frick. But if I get hit with a random breathalyzer test (and that's often part and parcel of a piss test) and I have bourbon on my breath, there's no way I can expect to keep my job.
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:02 pm to
Here's the facts. It is illegal. Period. Can they play after committing other crimes? No. There's your answer.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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55843 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:29 pm to
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This what people, in their zeal to defend this, don't seem to want to understand.

playing football for lsu is not a job.
Posted by Woodman
Seattle WA
Member since Aug 2009
1944 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 3:55 pm to
How do you know they are smoking it vs using topical THC lotions to address pain cuz ibuprofen tears up their kidneys? There are excellent medicinal purposes for some applications of THC that's illegal in many states because Big Pharma owns the law makers.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:40 pm to
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penalty for positive marijuana test


It's fricking stupid for marijuana to be a banned substance for football. The only justification for banning any substance in athletes is if it is a performance-enhancing drug that gives the player a competitive advantage. Marijuana does absolutely nothing to improve football performance, so it should be irrelevant.
Posted by Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
10096 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

This what people, in their zeal to defend this, don't seem to want to understand.

Alcohol is legal as frick. But if I get hit with a random breathalyzer test (and that's often part and parcel of a piss test) and I have bourbon on my breath, there's no way I can expect to keep my job.
Yea because you can get plastered on bourbon for 4th July and fail test for it on 15th July.
Good thing these 2 are the same.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:46 pm to
I mean in a sense of the sport being broadcasted nationally, not the suspensions.

quote:

It's an issue because folks like you want it to be.


I never said I want it to be the rule but as long as it is, players should follow it. Simple as that.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79926 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Yea because you can get plastered on bourbon for 4th July and fail test for it on 15th July.
Good thing these 2 are the same.


My point


























Your head.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10096 posts
Posted on 9/23/17 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

Here's the facts. It is illegal. Period.
Make it legal unless you want to argue it's worse than alcohol.
There's no logical support for alcohol over mj if looked at objectively.
quote:

Can they play after committing other crimes? No. There's your answer.
LOL. Misdemeanors usually get laps. Are you going to suspend for speeding, parking, jaywalking and what else you self righteous frick?
Posted by Black Stripes
Member since Oct 2014
114 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:25 am to
J J was stoned during the NC game.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:27 am
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10454 posts
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:40 am to
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But it’s still the law.


So is jaywalking
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 10:41 am
Posted by broadcaster
Maurepas
Member since Sep 2013
2685 posts
Posted on 9/26/17 at 6:21 pm to
Have u ever heard of a top tier SEC school have all these suspensions when it comes to weed?
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