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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:34 am to SammyTiger
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:34 am to SammyTiger
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I know Jim Boren, he is probably one of the most experienced defense attorneys in Baton Rouge
If true, and I am not doubting you, he is likely a bit of a bulldog a-hole and will do everything he needs to do to protect Collins AND go after anyone he can.
Including ESPN for the way they reported it. IF, big IF, they actually did falsely report it.
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:35 am to Breesus
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unless Boren knows something the rest of us don't
Hmmm.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:52 am to theantiquetiger
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I think a good lawyer could easily prove this. He went from being a first round draft pick in the NFL to where no one will even talk to him all because BRPD released his name in a murder case, even when they say he is not a suspect. Try do this two days before the draft, costing him a multi-million dollar contract
Um, me thinks you don't understand defamation.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:57 am to theantiquetiger
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Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?
Yea ok
Posted on 5/1/15 at 6:59 am to theantiquetiger
Just curious, but could he not have just answered questions over the phone or through a video conference with his lawyer present?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:02 am to theantiquetiger
I would just like to know why BRPD released his name to the media right before the draft. There was no need to do that. Its perfectly obvious where he is and what he's up to. Just a tiny bit of fore thought and consideration could have prevented this debacle. Sure you want to apprehend the murderer but you don't need to ruin someone's most important career move in the process.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:05 am to KamaCausey_LSU
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Just curious, but could he not have just answered questions over the phone or through a video conference with his lawyer present?
We won't ever know the exact issues, but from what I understand:
Lady gets murdered
Brpd starts investigation
Collins name comes up
Brpd calls Collins
Collins/agent/lawyer talk
Collins says I'll just talk to Brpd later about this no big deal.
Then the PR nightmare ensues.
Again,
The moment he found this out he should've been on a plane to br with cameras waiting. Get there, give a speech about senseless violence and caring for your community and how he'll do whatever he can to help catch the guy, then have the brpd issue a statement that he's not involved and they appreciate his help.
He chose to ignore a murder investigation and hope it would slide under the radar.
You always always have to get out in front of shite like this so you can control it.
Him and his representation took a multimillion dollar first round gamble and lost. Better luck next time.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:05 am to cheo25
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How do you know they didn't try to interview him 2 days earlier and that they weren't stonewalled?
Well, if he's not a suspect, then why does it matter if they stonewalled them or not? If that is true, which you have nothing supporting that fact, then maybe it's a power trip by both parties. However, stonewalling doesn't imply guilt - maybe he was busy with something....like maybe draft?!
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:08 am to Breesus
I agree with your line of thinking too...
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:10 am to theantiquetiger
They literally did not defame him in any way at all
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:12 am to RDOtiger
If Collins isn't a suspect. Even if he did stonewall them, BRPD acted like an entitled child by releasing his name to the media. It appears some arrogant BRPD employee got their jimmies rustled and went on a power trip.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:12 am to KamaCausey_LSU
If BRPD was just wanting assistance in the investigation like they have claimed publicly, then yes, he could have done this in Chicago through a conference call with his lawyer.
Whether that happened or not (we don't know), clearly this has moved beyond that.
Whether that happened or not (we don't know), clearly this has moved beyond that.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:24 am to RDOtiger
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they could have easily interviewed him 2 days earlier or later than they did in order to protect his draft status
Okay, let's imagine the interview:
Police: Lael, did you kill her?
Lael: No officer
Later police statement: Lael Collins has been cleared of any involvement in the crime
If only life was so easy.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:26 am to hbuc88
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The idiots are out in full force over this issue. If the murdered woman was your relative would you want the police to be concerned about the draft?
No but I would want them to be concerned with my rights. Leaking this to the press was a tactic to try to circumvent his right to not speak with them by forcing him to do so not because he has to under law but because of public opinion. From what I have read this has been handled at very best unethically by both the media and the department and at worst illegally. I dont pretend to be a lawyer but that is my opinion of this just knowing my personal rights as a citizen. We seem to have forgotten that the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused and attempting to use the media to circumvent that iswrong.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:27 am to theantiquetiger
Negative public inference =/= defamation
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:35 am to hbuc88
quote:family or not i would rather a process be followed. I don't want special treatment and rules. I feel like the investigation could be conducted more behind closed doors.It doesn't need to turn into a public spectacle.
The idiots are out in full force over this issue. If the murdered woman was your relative would you want the police to be concerned about the draft?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:36 am to Golfer
Come on guys we are sounding like Florida State fans now. It is a murder investigation! That comes way above a football draft. It is not even close either. If he needs to be in this investigation according to police then he needs to cooperate which he has been doing. Let him do this DNA swab clear his name and football will still come his way. He is doing the right thing, fans here need to calm down.
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:38 am to GeauxToBed
What was reckless? A woman was KILLED and they simply told LC they needed some info from him to help in finding the killer. So are they supposed to hold up the investigation of a murder for the NFL Draft?
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:42 am to Sailin Tiger
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I dont pretend to be a lawyer but that is my opinion of this just knowing my personal rights as a citizen.
What right do you know of that gives you the right to delay and interfere with police investigations based on your personal life at the time they call you?
quote:
We seem to have forgotten that the burden of proof is on the accuser not the accused
The didn't accuse him of anything
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 7:44 am
Posted on 5/1/15 at 7:43 am to LSUJuicer
should everyone in the city have their rights suspend because someone got murdered? is it tragic? sure it is, but that doesn't mean the world stops. It is horrible that this happened, but if brpd acted unethically their should be punishment to them. You can't just do what you please because it has emotional appeal to the public. Now if Collins was the lead suspect then sure don't wait, but it will be a while before we know all the facts in this case. In the end BRPD will either be vindicated, or have egg on their face.
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