re: Several "retirements" will be announced shortly. Staff meeting today.

Davis just got off his show cause from the NCAA.
What is amazing is how these Bama recruiting violations were summarily disposed of when Davis resigned.



The NCAA announced on Friday that former Alabama assistant coach Bo Davis has been handed a two-year show cause penalty for providing "false or misleading information about impermissible recruiting contacts."

The NCAA's Committee on Infractions concluded that Davis, unnamed in the release, "acted unethically" when he knowingly participated in an "impermissible meeting arranged by a booster with four prospects at their high school."

The show-cause for Davis, currently at UT-San Antonio, begins immediately (April 14, 2017) and runs through April 13, 2019. It is not yet known how the penalty will affect Davis' job with UTSA.

"The booster later initiated another impermissible meeting with three of the prospects on her own," the NCAA release said. "The contacts provided the university with a recruiting advantage because, contrary to NCAA rules, the activity occurred before the end of the prospects' junior year of high school and allowed the booster to recruit prospects."

AL.com reports "Davis has maintained with the NCAA that the meeting wasn't pre-arranged and that it consisted simply of Davis introducing himself upon urging from the players' high school coach."

Additionally, Alabama "committed Level III recruiting violations when a second former assistant football coach had impermissible off-campus contact with a recruit during an evaluation period and members of the football staff impermissibly allowed a prospect's youth football coach to attend a recruiting visit at the prospect's home."

The university self-imposed an off-campus recruiting ban for 30 days for that assistant in 2015 and suspended him for a game.

The case was resolved through a summary disposition process, meaning the NCAA and Alabama agreed to the facts of the case. When approached about the violations by both the NCAA and Alabama, Davis denied his involvement despite corroboration of the events by two prospects and the high school's football coach. Davis resigned as Alabama's D-line coach last year.

Additional penalties, per the release, include...

Public reprimand and censure for the university.
A withholding of the former assistant coach and his replacement from off-campus recruiting and telephone contact for 39 days, from April 22 through May 31, 2016 (self-imposed by the university).
A disassociation of the booster (self-imposed by the university).
A $5,000 fine (self-imposed by the university).

clearly not Vol and freely admit I have no inside the house information but my take:

we have had problems keeping guys because we haven't consistently delivered a threat to be a playoff team.

If you look at Bama, Clemson and TOSU they seem to be returning everyone or at least key ones. they have a slightly better recruiting crop than us but they have been in the playoffs over and over and over. So what happens is the kid comes in and maybe wins a title his freshman year or sophomore year and then lose jr year or such. So now they want to win again.

at LSU its been one trip to the playoff and success.

18 we had success and actually got guys to not leave and it lead to 19 with some other changes.

I think if you see LSU making the playoffs in 21 and a threat in 22 and such it can start the ball rolling toward that.

I do think O has tried to change it, but it is a fine line. we sell it has NFLSU so we need players in the league. What we need to do a better job is selling guys on stay that one more year and etch your name along side Burrow and such. I think we see some of that with how O embraced the past tigers, now he did get burned by Clark doing that.

We start beating bama some what consistently and putting ourselves in more championship scenarios and it will be easier to get guys back.

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Again I can see how that’s not ideal but you don’t fire the pilot cuz he can’t build a plane. You just buy him a damn plane. Which is what O did.

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Then in this scenario, the problem is we hired a pilot when we need a plane builder.

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Yea Bama manages to sell the NFL future thing as well and winning titles and its a process.

Clemson does the same thing.

we can still sell the NFLSU thing but we need to make it about our facilities and that we will make you champions. It was hard to do though when Bama is pantsing you 8 years in a row.

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Do you think the opt-out situation would have looked the same if Brady were still around?

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Marshall was going to eclipse his 15 game 2019 production in a 10 game season before he chose to opt out.

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Marshall was going to eclipse his 15 game 2019 production

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he only played 12 games last year

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So i dont think he should be fired. He has done a lot for the program. I just think him being OC isn't the best option and shouldn't remain

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I think most of us welcome the change, however the sky screaming about the offense this year is somewhat unwarranted. Everything is relative. We would have killed for a top 15 passing game a few years ago.

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Injuries didn't derail the season. A shittastic offense did.

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I know that and so do you, but that isn't something you sell a recruit on