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re: Several "retirements" will be announced shortly. Staff meeting today.

Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:40 am to
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:40 am to
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in the NFL, the drop off between your starters and your backups is HUGE.
Wrong.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:42 am to
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We would have killed for a top 15 passing game a few years ago.

we were 62nd in yards per attempt. 56th in passer rating. We racked up yards because our defense sucked, so we ran a lot of plays

We were also 76th in yards per play and 62nd in points per play. Signs of a very inefficient offense.
Posted by LSUnKaty
Katy, TX
Member since Dec 2008
4898 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:43 am to
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Regardless of who is hired, y'all will still want them fired next season.
This.

It's so frustrating reading this forum most of the time.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:44 am to
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So i dont think he should be fired. He has done a lot for the program. I just think him being OC isn't the best option and shouldn't remain

I don't disagree, I just think that pointing out the inefficiency in the two areas that he doesn't call the plays isn't good evidence as to why he should be reassigned.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 11:46 am
Posted by BigTimer23
Lafayette
Member since Aug 2015
2067 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:50 am to
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I just think that pointing out the inefficiency in the two areas that he doesn't call the plays isn't good evidence as to why he should be reassigned.


The fact that any offensive coordinator wouldn’t call the plays in the two most important areas should be cause for concern. No top notch coordinator doesn’t call 3rd down or red zone. That’s where the games are won and lost.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:53 am to
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We racked up yards because our defense sucked,




It's impossible to argue with the "either or" crowd who see everything in extremes. You'll find connections everywhere to justify your opinion.

Prior to the season 90% of y'all thought Max and TJ were projects and unusable. shite, Brennan was averaging almost 400 ypg.

But you'll see what you choose to see.

Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24377 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:56 am to
eh, TJ was thought of as the project. Max was considered much further along
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299196 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 11:58 am to
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Max was considered much further along


Hindsight. Everyone was looking forward to Nuss.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24377 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:00 pm to
not hindsight, Max was always considered further along than TJ. TJ was the project, Max was more polished and everyone was also looking forward to Nuss.


O made a mistake starting TJ, but I think some of losing the locker room played into that.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
77894 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:01 pm to
We are set at QB for 5 years.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
12246 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:02 pm to
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The fact that any offensive coordinator wouldn’t call the plays in the two most important areas should be cause for concern.


read my previous posts. I acknowledge that and said that his need for help in those areas is a fair criticism but the performance in those areas is not since he was not in charge of them.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
24377 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:04 pm to
Max to Nuss to Howard

fwiw this is also how you manage to become a factory and consistent big time winner
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61865 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:06 pm to
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But you'll see what you choose to see.

this is what you are doing.

It’s a fact that our defense allowing quick scores have our offense more opportunities to rack up yards. It’s a fact that when given those opportunities, our offense was average to below average when it comes to being successful with those opportunities

Yards per play and points per play are some of the best metrics to measure how good an offense is. We were average to below average in both of those stats.
Posted by nola2269
New orleans
Member since Nov 2018
507 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:07 pm to
In my opinion if our OC/PGC are going to be a combination of E and Russ with Russ doing 3rd down and RZ. Why not just make Russ OC and QB coach and E PGC and TE coach? Let E assist Russ and the OC should be in charge of 3rd down and RZ> I like E but 3rd down and RZ are where games are won and should be the head mans top priority.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20241 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:09 pm to
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we were 62nd in yards per attempt. 56th in passer rating. We racked up yards because our defense sucked, so we ran a lot of plays

We were also 76th in yards per play and 62nd in points per play. Signs of a very inefficient offense.


From last year, going into this season, we lost:

QB1, RB1, WR1, WR2, TE1, OC1, OG1, and our PGC.

Then, game 2, we lost our new QB1, who put up a ton of yards/pts on Missouri and had to roll with true freshmen all year that had zero experience. Then we lost TE1 again and WR1 again for the last few games.

All of that and our conference ranks for offense, which is the only true "fair" way to measure 2020, are as follows:

- PPG: 5th
- YPG: 5th
- YPP: 9th (not good)
- QBR: 7th (with rotating true freshmen)

All these new faces with an abbreviated camp and still a somewhat decent offensive performance makes me not blame Ensminger much. We need to shore up 3rd down and red zone and I think Calloway can do that. Get rid of useless Linehan. Don't get me wrong, if we move Steve to an admin role and get a knockout OC I'd be pumped, but I just don't think that was the issue this year.

Now, Bo Pelini on the other hand had an historically bad unit that was an embarrassment to the program. He took the few very talented and very experienced players he inherited on defense and made them much, much worse.

Posted by ValleyTNTIGER
wherever i go that's where i am
Member since Sep 2010
1034 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:11 pm to
Sorry for such long delay. Been on the road. You say a pretty good plan. Is it realistic given current situations on campus and around the country.? For example. Hiring lane was a good plan. Just was not possible or realistic
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:11 pm to
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The mob doesn't even know what duties each coach has.

Regardless of who is hired, y'all will still want them fired next season.



Mob of what? I'm pointing out objective facts you are posting like a 15 yr old girl so emotional.

See my post about E in 2018 leading us to a 51st ranked 3rd down conversion and 102 ranking in red zone. That's terrible
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
23113 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Max to Nuss to Howard fwiw this is also how you manage to become a factory and consistent big time winner



Correction: It’s a start but without an Offensive line to protect them you still fall short
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44228 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:14 pm to
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not hindsight, Max was always considered further along than TJ. TJ was the project, Max was more polished and everyone was also looking forward to Nuss.

This, I have some old posts I can dig up to state as much. I was called a racist for not kowtowing to TJ (whom I also spoke highly of btw).

O made a mistake starting TJ, but I think some of losing the locker room played into that.

Agree. Thanks to this guy:




I don’t think O had a real choice in terms of playing TJ. The locker room had to have been on the verge of becoming toxic at that point.
O deserves a shite ton of criticism, but he did a good job of righting a sinking ship at the end of the season imho.
Posted by LSU_30A
Member since Jan 2019
2921 posts
Posted on 12/21/20 at 12:17 pm to
Why do I feel like Muschamp is going to be the guy O chooses for DC? Wouldn’t mind just stealing Briles and Odom away from Arkansas.
This post was edited on 12/21/20 at 12:19 pm
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