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re: selection committee

Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by Oyster
North Shore
Member since Feb 2009
10224 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:06 pm to
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Well can you at least admit that my point is valid. Compared to the field LSU should have been in. Do I think we deserved to be in? No..we played like crap and we crapped the bed when we had the chance. Do I think we should have been in? Yes, we are a better team then a lot of those team and our facilities are better, plus we have fan support.


Even more to the point. I just wanted to see LSU play a few more games. Less impressive teams got in. I'm disappointed.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47804 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:10 pm to
quote:

all i'm saying is that i'm not that pissed cause i didn't feel like they deserved it.


I understand being pissed at the team's performance this year, I am too. But putting all bias and emotion aside and taking team names off the resumes they most certainly did deserve to get in. Am I devastated? No. Does anything I deem unfair piss me off? Yes.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7298 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:12 pm to
quote:

The only argument I have heard from the other side is LSU was shitty compared to LSU standards not compared to the arbitrary standards that allowed teams lesser than LSU to get in.

LSU was shitty compared to SEC standards, not just LSU standards. They sucked in conference play ... no other way to describe it. Personally, I'm in the camp that believes if you aren't good enough to make your conference tourney, you're not good enough to make the NCAA tourney (again forget about what happens with other underserving teams).
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47804 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:15 pm to
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LSU was shitty compared to SEC standards, not just LSU standards. They sucked in conference play ... no other way to describe it. Personally, I'm in the camp that believes if you aren't good enough to make your conference tourney, you're not good enough to make the NCAA tourney (again forget about what happens with other underserving teams).


What if the SEC let everybody in the conference tourny like other conferences do? That argument doesn't hold water because it is not a uniform standard for everyone. Baylor and K-State were just as shitty in conference and shittier out of conference and overall. Baylor's overall record is atrocious.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:17 pm to
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Personally, I'm in the camp that believes if you aren't good enough to make your conference tourney, you're not good enough to make the NCAA tourney


So if the SEC expanded the tourney to 10 teams?

2006 MSU and 2009 OSU are very recent examples of teams that buck your belief.

And Dallas Baptist is getting the Notre Dame BCS treatment...
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:17 pm to
WHAT did St. John's do to merit getting in?

Ok, leave us out. Surely there is another choice to get in besides Saint John's.

There will never be a love for college baseball in the northeast. Never. It's too cold and it's a professional sports-dominated culture. The only baseball that matters in NY is Yankees and Mets. I guarantee you less than 200 of the 15 million greater NY citizens were watching the selection show, biting their nails. I guarantee you that less than 200 people from St. John's make the trip to Charlottesville.

Socialism in sports. Hell, our whole country is being subject to the whole "That's not nice. Now, you be a good boy and share with everyone else." Sports should not be determined by geography unless you're setting up a conference.

Not one team from LA made the cut, yet three from New York did. That is just a travesty. Rethink and remake the formula. 36 win teams who play in the greatest conference in America deserve better. How does Baylor get in and much more a TWO seed with a record that was a series from being .500? Oh that's right. The chair is from the Big XII.

Also, look at LSU vs. Big XII/SWC over the last 25 years. LSU beat what might have been the greatest collegiate team ever in 1989 when they took a DH from A&M in College Station. LSU beats Baylor in 2003 to go to Omaha. LSU beats A&M the following year to go. LSU beats A&M and Texas in the CWS. Then, of course, two years ago we beat Texas again.

The committee should not be made up of obvious homers and guys from Valpo and Bucknell who have not seen 90 percent of the field even play on tv. Seriously, what was their criteria for selecting teams? Read the Sporting News?
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7298 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:21 pm to
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What if the SEC let everybody in the conference tourny like other conferences do?

I would have no problem with that ... maybe we should be pissed at the SEC for limiting the number of teams in the SEC tournament? However, it doesn't change the fact that LSU was only able to win SEC series against UK, UT, Ole Miss and MSU (I think I have that right). We'll see in a couple of weeks just how strong the rest of the SEC was ... I'm not convinced it was as strong as everyone here wants to believe.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7298 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:23 pm to
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So if the SEC expanded the tourney to 10 teams?

Maybe it's time for that to happen ... can you influence that decision? I can't.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47804 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:24 pm to
Don't quote the part where making the conference tourney is not a standard because they are all different. RPI has been a benchmark in determining strength of team and conference for frickin' ever up until this year.
Posted by kool breeze
Kingwood
Member since Jan 2010
705 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:38 pm to
Stop crying. Win and your in.
Posted by kool breeze
Kingwood
Member since Jan 2010
705 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:41 pm to
Did Baylor make the conference tourny
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Did Baylor make the conference tourny


80% of B12 teams make their tourney.

75% of SEC teams make the tourney.

Posted by dred24
In the south
Member since Nov 2006
1218 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 8:54 pm to
I'm not so sure that we are so much better then the other teams that got in. The only reason we ended the season 'on a roll' is because we played weaker teams. FACE IT - THIS YEAR LSU baseball was not that good.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

I'm not so sure that we are so much better then the other teams that got in. The only reason we ended the season 'on a roll' is because we played weaker teams. FACE IT - THIS YEAR LSU baseball was not that good.


No one is arguing this.
Posted by TigerKB
Alabama
Member since Oct 2010
38 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 9:25 pm to
So if all SEC teams (esp Arkansas and Miss St) make it to a super regional then LSU fans should really come unglued about not being selected to the tourney. That would certainly prove that LSU deserved to be in the top 64.
Posted by Hemlok
Member since Jan 2011
355 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 9:32 pm to
What it is be is?

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Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2973 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 9:58 pm to
I agree with you original poster - don't let the children frighten away your free speech, some of them being notorious for that.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66555 posts
Posted on 5/30/11 at 10:01 pm to
Quit crying. You still in the process of filing a lawsuit against tigerdroppings.com?
Posted by I Speak As I Please
Seaside, FL
Member since May 2011
790 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 6:09 am to
Everybody just hold tight and see if Mainieri makes an attempt to "fix things" by making the much needed staff changes this week. Hope the guy isn't going to continue with his buddy system a la Gerry DiNardo and not replace assistant coaches that are obviously not of the same quality as the assistants they replaced. (Rooney and Godwin) DiNardo didn't replace replace Ron Case and Carl Reese with quality replacements and the rest is history. Hope Mainieri isn't going to stubbornly go down that road.........
Posted by mlminbtr
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2003
651 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 7:34 am to
quote:

True. If we make the SEC tournament, we are in--simple as that. How sad that we are complaining about not making the NCAA tournament when we sucked in SEC play. How sad that we have fallen this far.


This is the truest statement in the thread. Scary part is...with this coaching staff, we might not have hit bottom. And if you go to the games and concentrate on more of the fundamental nuances of baseball rather than just statistics and records it is blatantly obvious.
This post was edited on 5/31/11 at 7:36 am
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