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re: SEC Responds Brian Kelly's Question on Blocked Punt

Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
It’s not valid because you can’t reasonably come to the conclusion that Jones touched the ball while out of bounds.
Posted by Fightin Okra
Member since Nov 2016
6035 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:52 pm to
Our blocker actually lifted him up
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3569 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:54 pm to
Not the SEC. No executive in any level of any sport can admit the foot locker rejects/RUMPires/etc. are wrong. They are perfect in all they do and we must worship them.
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 7:55 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
16594 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 7:55 pm to
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It’s not valid because you can’t reasonably come to the conclusion that Jones touched the ball while out of bounds.



You don’t think it’s reasonable to think that he is touching the ball at this moment?
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:05 pm to
The bigger travesty that day was when it was revealed that the SEC, in 2009, didn’t have high def tvs in the replay booth.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
77903 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:07 pm to
No, it’s not reasonable. For one, Peterson already had the ball with his right foot down with zero bobble of the ball, so even if Jones is touching the ball in that pic, it doesn’t matter. Secondly, a split second before that right when the ball meets Petersons hands, Jones isn’t touching out of bounds…so if he is touching the ball, it doesn’t matter.

Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
7102 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:13 pm to
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Has the league office ever come out publicly and admitted the refs messed up?


2004. LSU vs Alabama. Alabama was leading 10-6. Corey Webster intercepted a pass in the end zone after allegedly (probably) committing interference.

LSU went on to win 24-10.

The league reviewed and issued an apology to Alabama after the game.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
4090 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 8:51 pm to
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Yeah I can’t remember them giving a clear explanation on why, I’m just giving you a reason as to why it might actually be incomplete according to the rulebook.


The SEC office stated it was not based on Jones touching the ball out of bounds.

SEC Ruling
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Tiger Phil
I see burnt orange everywhere
Member since Nov 2007
1658 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:23 pm to
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If the Bama WR was at any point touching the football while his foot was out of bounds before Pat had full possession it would be an incomplete pass


My brother in Christ, I have watched a LOT of college football and I can never recall that call being made.
Posted by TieOneOn247365
Gunnison, CO
Member since Jul 2023
5 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:51 pm to
Completely clean block... if they ruled it no flag, then no flag. you folks whine about everything. HAIL STATE
Posted by NJS2005
The woodlands
Member since Apr 2023
5 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:55 pm to
how toledo treating ya...
Posted by TieOneOn247365
Gunnison, CO
Member since Jul 2023
5 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 9:58 pm to
Lsu is too scared to play miss st... they know they're in for an arse whoopin
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8591 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:05 pm to
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You are telling me players touch loose balls while they are out of bounds and they let they play go on? And you are telling me that it happens all the time?


I’m not exactly sure how you got that out of what I said. Very few of your words matched mine.

You (or someone) said it’s “illegal” to touch the ball while out of bounds. In football, “illegal” suggests or implies that it’s something that is penalized.

Touching the ball while out of bounds is not a penalty.

Does the play become dead? Yes. Is that illegal? No.
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4825 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:08 pm to
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Do you think it’s legal for a player to be touching the ball while he is standing out of bounds?


quote:

This is an oddly phrased question. Players touch the ball while out of bounds all the time. Very rarely is it “illegal.”


quote:

You are telling me players touch loose balls while they are out of bounds and they let they play go on? And you are telling me that it happens all the time?


Are you under the impression that being ruled “out of bounds” is illegal?
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 10:12 pm
Posted by DrEdgeLSU
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2006
8591 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 10:15 pm to
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Are you under the impression that being ruled “out of bounds” is illegal?


I think he’s gearing up for some sort of “gotcha” but I can’t see it.

In the ‘22 Bama game LSU caused a fumble and recovered the ball. Upon review, though, it was determined that a Bama player was out of bounds and he touched the ball before LSU gained possession, thus downing the ball. It was a big moment in the game, it didn’t go LSU’s way, and it was thoroughly explained by the referees.

At no point during any of that was any action by a player, in or out of bounds, considered illegal.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51577 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:30 am to
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I'm not saying that it's 100% the correct call

I think the point was the user name of the guy who challenged you.
Posted by EST
Investigating
Member since Oct 2003
18190 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 5:31 am to
Some of you haven't been around long enough to realize that when it comes to football, the SEC will not defend LSU in public.

They will, however, bend over backwards for some of the other SEC schools.

For example, back in the early 2000's, the SEC basically made a public apology to Alabama for a questionable no call in a game against LSU in Tiger Stadium that LSU won.

The SEC clearly took the side of Florida in the hurricane game debacle - even though the arrogance of the University of Florida caused the entire controversy - making LSU and Alleva look like assholes.

Advice - never expect the SEC offices to do anything in favor of LSU football. LSU has been and will always be treated like a bastard step-child by the SEC.

Texas and Oklahoma will get a public apology from the SEC regarding officiating before LSU ever will.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30365 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 5:36 am to
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For example, back in the early 2000's, the SEC basically made a public apology to Alabama for a questionable no call in a game against LSU in Tiger Stadium that LSU won.
Yep, no call on Corey Webster for PI in the endzone when he picked off a pass and the receiver had totally flopped after their arms had gotten tangled.
Posted by KennytheTiger
bella vista ar
Member since Apr 2012
469 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:45 am to
Surprised the SEC didn't write back and say the LSU player is clearly targeting as the crown of his helmet is in the gut of the USC player.
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Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31624 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:50 am to
Ask our Special Teams coach. Oh, wait…
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