re: SEC ESPN host Peter Burns makes the case for retaining Matt McMahon at LSU

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No your arguments are based on hypotheticals because you assume because they lost a couple of games with DJ they then lose every game. That's not facts that's opinions. And we aren't talking about blowouts we are talking about competitive games where 10 pts or 4 rebounds here and there change the outcome. DJ and Reed were very capable of that. If you win just half of those games you are at 8 wins. a couple of upsets and at 10.

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Says someone else is using hypotheticals. Immediately imagines 7 more wins.

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No your arguments are based on hypotheticals because you assume because they lost a couple of games with DJ they then lose every game. That's not facts that's opinions. And we aren't talking about blowouts we are talking about competitive games where 10 pts or 4 rebounds here and there change the outcome. DJ and Reed were very capable of that. If you win just half of those games you are at 8 wins. a couple of upsets and at 10. That's basic math and assuming Reed didn't get any better and DJ didn't surpass his average. Getting blown out by Miss St is just as confusing as NCST losing to Ga Tech at home or losing to Louisville by 41. LOL by 41 with a healthy team and no injuries. It happens. Yet you ignore all the very close games without DJ and Reed. You just can't take your emotional bias out of the equation.

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Your argument is completely hypothetical.


Here’s the facts.



Matt McMahon has a sec winning percentage that is dwarfed by Curley friggin hallman.


He has the worst SEC record of a modern men’s major sport coach in modern history at lsu.


Trent Johnson and Johnny jones have records that would be like bob knight and John wooden compared to Matt Mcmahon.

Each and everyone of those coaches dealt with injuries.


I could sit here and argue that we had what a top 3 ken Pom rating in will wades last season until Xavier Pinson got hurt and that if pinson and Adam Miller stay healthy that’s a final four team but that’s all speculation. Just like you.


All we deal with is facts and results.


The results are that any other coach in LSU history would have already been fired but the only reason he is still coaching currently at LSU is that Scott Woodward left LSU with a massive buyout in football and a massive buyout in basketball and both needing to be done at the same time.

Understandably the boosters and AD chose football.


That is the situation

The only case to retain McMahan is that the athletic department and TAF are literally too poor to fire him. He has presided over the worst tenure in the history of the program by every metric.

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My argument is not with whether he should be fired. Yes if the boosters are willing to pony up and they have a reputable successful coach ready then so be it.

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If your argument is not whether or not he should be fired than what is it?


You are trying to morph losses into wins in order to pretend he has been more successful than he has been.

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hey have a reputable successful coach ready then so be it

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And firing him just to hope you get another mid major coach is questionable.

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Listen. It really sucks that y’all are like this because I hate insulting the man because he truly seems like a good person and a good family.


With that said.


Why does it have to be an established successful coach?




All we have done the past 4 years is “establish” that McMahon will not be successful.


Thus if we go cheap and try to get another mid major maybe you hit on the roulette wheel maybe you don’t but at least there is some hope.

And if you miss on it then whatever it can’t be any worse.

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My argument is that the injuries affected the record this year.

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But his team's here have never been good though.

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And firing him just to hope you get another mid major coach is questionable.

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You can have a mystery box or I can hand you a bag of shitty diapers.

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Why does everyone want LSU Basketball to suck?

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I want LSU basketball to be Final Four good every year but:

- who's forking over $15M+ to make McMeh & staff go away,
- then pony up another 5yr/$35M+ for a top coach/staff
- then find $20M+ annually for a Final Four bluechip roster that will only stick around for one year (so, roughly $100M for the next 5 years)

$150M+ for the next 5 years??? Questioning the price doesn't mean I want LSU Basketball to suck.

He’s not LSU

I think you've nailed it. It's money.

McMahon hasn't proven that he can coach in the SEC, but not long after he got the job NIL landed. Nick Saban, the GOAT, gave up coaching IMO because of NIL. Brian Kelly couldn't handle it. Dabo Swinny

Lane Kiffin, on the other hand, has a good record in NIL.

I like Will Wade. I think he's disinclined to go to any other school right now. Maybe in a year or two.

From what I've heard, and I have no idea if it's true, LSU's oligarchs come down to mainly two people. There's such a thing as going to the well too many times.

So McMahon isn’t getting paid next year and we’re not spending a cent on NIL? Yea, that makes sense.

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going to those wells on a sport that you're never going to win a championship in is ludicrous.

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What a bitchmade way of thinking. Some people are born with silver spoons in their mouths but im convinced you were born with a huge platinum dick in yours.

Why don’t you do us all an enormous favor then and quit fricking watching?