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re: SEC ESPN host Peter Burns makes the case for retaining Matt McMahon at LSU

Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by Circle K Beggar
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:45 pm to
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Texas Tech has spent considerably more money than LSU the last few years and they didn't lose their PG.They are deeper talent wise because of that. LSU makes the tournament with a healthy DJ and a healthy Reed but an extra $1.5 - 3 mil can add a little more depth or another talented player. Like I said LSU lost 11 games by an avg of 5.8 pts. Most without DJ and Reed and one each without Mckinnon and Miller also. I'd say you are the idiot.


Good grief. My point just went completely over your brainwashed head. I won’t bother with you anymore. Good luck.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:51 pm to
These sports meat bots, even factoring in the hot take / click bait angle, all seem like the same sub 90 IQ individual from some angst infested northeast city.
Posted by GeauxTigers73
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 2:58 pm to
LSU's best player, Dedan Thomas, Jr., also played in only two SEC games and was not at full speed in those two because of injury. He was averaging more than 14ppg and almost 7 assists per game when his season ended. His passing made his teammates better.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26770 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:01 pm to
McMahon has won less than 10 games against winning SEC teams in 4 years. The results have been abysmal over a 4-year span. There is no argument for keeping him other than if LSU is a billion dollars in debt or something. And even then, I'd say what's another 10-15 million or whatever they say everything would cost.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:01 pm to
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Good grief. My point just went completely over your brainwashed head. I won’t bother with you anymore. Good luck.


Texas Tech lost an actual All American and preseason POY. They then won 3 straight games, including @ No. 4 Iowa St. LSU loses a PG with who they went 1-4 against SEC and comparable competition and a part time starting forward with a career 7 ppg/4rpg average and they can't win more than 6 conference games, COMBINED, in two seasons.

Other "fun facts" to rebut the constant excuse train:

Texas Tech has not signed a single top 100 HS recruit in THREE years. LSU has signed six during that period.

Texas Tech's overall (HS recruits and transfers) signing class rankings have been 66, 48, 54 over the last 3 years.

LSU's overall (HS recruits and transfers) signing class rankings have been 47, 16, 32 over the last 3 years.

In EVERY measurable metric McMahon has been an utter failure. Yet, a dedicated handful continue to blindly argue that's everyone's fault BUT McMahon.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:03 pm to
Wow
Posted by Pmac96
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:03 pm to
They enjoy LSU being bottom feeders
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80330 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:04 pm to
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LSU's best player, Dedan Thomas, Jr., also played in only two SEC games and was not at full speed in those two because of injury. He was averaging more than 14ppg and almost 7 assists per game when his season ended. His passing made his teammates better.

He played in 3 SEC games, all losses. Also, how stupid will LSU look if they bring McMahon back because Thomas and Reed were hurt then one or both transfer? It's not 1988 anymore where you can just assume everyone is returning.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:09 pm to
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LSU's best player, Dedan Thomas, Jr., also played in only two SEC games and was not at full speed in those two because of injury.


In those two games he played ~30 minutes and averaged 16 points and 4.5 assists. LSU lost both. In fact they lost one (Miss. St) by 14 points, at home, to a team that finished 13-19 (5-13), in a game that wasn't even that close. LSU trailed by 23 at halftime.
Posted by tigahlovah
virginia beach, va
Member since Oct 2009
5011 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:11 pm to
They hate LSU basketball for a variety of reasons, and are scared to death of it winning consistently with a coach like Wade.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:12 pm to
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lso, how stupid will LSU look if they bring McMahon back because Thomas and Reed were hurt then one or both transfer?


Or the fact that one of the lynchpins to McMahon's hypothetical success will be a guy (Reed) coming off of two season ending major injuries. In some ways I'd feel bad for Reed. It would be a lot to ask a guy coming off of such injuries to put up big numbers. Yet, that part of the McMahon apologist's plan for success...having a healthy Reed in the mix.
Posted by mcspufftiger7
Member since Oct 2020
3475 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:20 pm to
You mean the Miss St game where he had to come out due to injury? That's one of the games you are citing? I'll say it again LSU lost 11 SEC games by an avg of 5.8 points. And your position is DJ and Reed wouldn't help overcome that. Maybe you are the brainwashed idiot. I am talking about this year.And yes there are coaches and teams that can overcome injuries but injury to your PG especially with a freshman backup is the most difficult to overcome.
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
73704 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:21 pm to
Burns has been pretty bad lately in regards to what’s best for LSU. Glad they didn’t listen to him on the football hire.
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
80330 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:23 pm to
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You mean the Miss St game where he had to come out due to injury? That's one of the games you are citing?

The game where he played 28 minutes, second most minutes of any LSU player, and we were down 30-10 ten minutes into the game?
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 3:27 pm
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:39 pm to
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And yes there are coaches and teams that can overcome injuries but injury to your PG especially with a freshman backup is the most difficult to overcome.


The funny thing is Reece was actually very solid. We just suck because the players are doomed to fail. Also lol at the ownage in the above post.
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26770 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 3:49 pm to
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You mean the Miss St game where he had to come out due to injury? That's one of the games you are citing? I'll say it again LSU lost 11 SEC games by an avg of 5.8 points. And your position is DJ and Reed wouldn't help overcome that. Maybe you are the brainwashed idiot. I am talking about this year.And yes there are coaches and teams that can overcome injuries but injury to your PG especially with a freshman backup is the most difficult to overcome.

LSU was down 44-21 at half to a terrible team at the PMAC in that one. Thomas had 14 points, 4 assists and 0 turnovers. Even with him scoring around his average basically and taking care of the ball, LSU got blown out at home by one of the SEC's worst teams.

The best we have done under McMahon is a 17-16 season with a .500 record in the SEC topped off by a loss to North Texas at the PMAC in the 1st round of the NIT. So his high mark was 9 SEC wins (not bad), but those 9 SEC wins are more than his other 3 years COMBINED (8 total SEC wins). That is just awful.
Posted by JWill409
Beaumont, TX
Member since Sep 2010
1682 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:11 pm to
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He’s in the tournament in year one

The man you’re defending can barely get on the NIT bubble

You cannot try to shite on Wade while propping up McMahon, it just doesn’t make sense

Argue against Wade being the guy everyone here believes him to be? Reasonable.


Is he "in the tournament", or a play-in first four game? Interesting. Seems like they're playing for a spot in the field of 64. I see what you did there though lol

I'm not defending McMahon, all I've done is given perspective as to why they keep him. I'm 100% against a Will Wade reunion, not against firing McMahon.

Will Wade is also 5-7 in the NCAA tournament, so when people on this board talk about losers and mediocrity, it doesn't quite make sense to me to bring that guy back.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35576 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:13 pm to
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You mean the Miss St game where he had to come out due to injury? That's one of the games you are citing?


The one where he played 28 minutes (17 of which in the 1st half) and LSU was down 44-21 at HT? The one where he scored 14 (second only to McKinnon's 15) points and had 4 assists?

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I'll say it again LSU lost 11 SEC games by an avg of 5.8 points. And your position is DJ and Reed wouldn't help overcome that.


Correct.

Why? I watched Thomas play against Texas Tech....and LSU get blown out. I watched him go for 18/5 in 31 minutes vs. Arkansas...and lose. I also watched 70+ games of Reed...including 7 before injury derailed his All American season. He was an inconsistent 7/5 player. You see, my arguments are always based upon actual data...not hypothetical supposition based on hope. Would Thomas and Reed have maybe given LSU a couple of more wins? Probably. So LSU gets 5...maybe 6 SEC wins. But I guess in hypothetical land, based upon the Matt McMahon standard for "success" that would be GREAT season...

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172202 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:17 pm to
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Will Wade is also 5-7 in the NCAA tournament, so when people on this board talk about losers and mediocrity, it doesn't quite make sense to me to bring that guy back


He’s coached 12 tournament games which is approximately 12 more than i expect McMahon will coach in here.

Mediocrity would be a dream for McMahon but he can’t even get close.
Posted by Gen Patton
Member since Dec 2009
2089 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 4:24 pm to
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SEC ESPN host Peter Burns makes the case for retaining Matt McMahon at LSU


Burns is a fake LSU person, no LSU person in their right mind would say this
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