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re: SEC Coaches talk anonymously about conference foes - Athlon Sports

Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:02 am to
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:02 am to
I know that too, but I do like the QB experience thing. Which is exactly like the other things.
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:08 am to
Did you see the stats from the guy that I was responding to. Ensminger was O's first offensive coordinator. Those are skins on the wall, regardless if you want to admit it or not.
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:12 am to
I was just putting this out there for anyone that wasn't aware of this. I know that it doesn't nessarsarily means anything.
Posted by Greace
Member since May 2009
4839 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:14 am to
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Zeek


Go back to not posting
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:16 am to
Because,and I am glad, that God gave us the ability and freedom of choice to change our minds. If we so choose to do it. Like you haven't ever made a decision, then changed your mind.
Posted by Zeek
Nashville Tn
Member since May 2013
681 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:17 am to
Just ignore me, if you cannot handle my truth.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:28 am to
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They had some small issues with the timing of pre snap movements before plays, the offense itself wasn't that hard to pick up. It was more the pre snap penalties they were looking to avoid


You can't stop lying. WTF is wrong with you? Just admit that hiring Canada was a mistake and move on. There's absolutely nothing to be gained by sugarcoating the situation unless you're using it to bash O.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
32137 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 12:35 am to
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WTF is wrong with you?


You may want to ask yourself the exact same question.


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There's absolutely nothing to be gained by sugarcoating the situation unless you're using it to bash O.


I'm not about to bash him but he has made some questionable decisions since he has been made the HC.

That isn't bashing the man, it's the truth. He said he "would go out and hire the best coordinators available." Miles hired Aranda so he had that covered and he went out and got Canada after seeing him call the plays in the Pittsburgh game when they beat Clemson. I will grant you that Canada seems to be hard to work with and seldom stays long at any given school, but that should've been considered by O when he hired Canada. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. I don't know.

He then spends another 1.5M to make Canada go away and doesn't even have a search for an OC. He ultimately promotes from within a person that said they had no interest in being a full time OC. This isn't a shot at Ensminger at all. But if he wanted Ensminger all along, why hire Canada in the first place? I mean Ensminger was already on staff prior to Canada's hire.

He's paid very well and with poor results (I understand how they look on paper, particularly last season), criticism will arise.

None of the above is "bashing" O. And I am not wishing for him to fail at all. I want him to succeed, I'm just not sure he's the right man for the job.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 12:45 am
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 2:34 am to
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Did you see the stats from the guy that I was referring to.


If you're talking about the post from Ree, I saw those stats. Big deal. Those stats came against some of the weakest defenses college football had to offer in the 2016 season.

Orgeron and Ensminger had one decent win during the 2016 season, and that was the bowl game against Louisville. But let's not forget how bad Louisville looked at the end of the 2016 season, losing 3 straight games.

The is just my opinion, but the coaches (o & E) ran up the score against those weak teams in 2016, because they were auditioning for their jobs. Miles never seemed to have the desire to run up the score on an opponent, or to embarrasse an opponent. He didn't have to since he was already the head coach.

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Those are skins on the wall


Well, you must be very easy to impress if you're going to brag about any of those victories.

When they start winning some of the hard games, some of us doubters may start warming up to old o & E.

Maybe.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21221 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 3:59 am to
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quote:

"The quarterback has been a problem there since Les (Miles) first started out.

I mean, Russell was good in 2005 and 2006, Flynn was good in 2007, Mettenberger was good in 2013 and serviceable in 2012


Don’t forget Rohan and we did win the BCS with mauck
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138533 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 5:13 am to
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Don’t forget Rohan and we did win the BCS with mauck


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since Les (Miles) first started out.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15912 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 5:44 am to
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A lot of questions there on offense. And (Steve) Ensminger is your guy to run that show? That hire will define Ed, no question about it."
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It already has. It shows what O values most, and it isn't "best person for the job".
Once again, it's "Shite or get off the Pot" time for O.

Once you start lying to the fan base, ("I'll hire the best Coordinators in the Country") all bets are off.

He just cut his own rope and made it very short.

It's basically a 3 game season. Beat Miami, blow Tech out and beat Auburn.

Lose to UM and AU early and it's all over three weeks in, because the team (And fans) will never recover...……..
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:14 am to
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You may want to ask yourself the exact same question.


I wasn't talking to you. I was discussing another poster's blatant dishonesty and wondering why he felt the need considering he gained very little from it.
Posted by dljtigers
Sulphur, LA
Member since Feb 2012
2121 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:23 am to
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Once again, it's "Shite or get off the Pot" time for O. Once you start lying to the fan base, ("I'll hire the best Coordinators in the Country") all bets are off. He just cut his own rope and made it very short. It's basically a 3 game season. Beat Miami, blow Tech out and beat Auburn. Lose to UM and AU early and it's all over three weeks in, because the team (And fans) will never recover...……..


I am rooting for CEO but u r on spot. Its now or never no more mulligans. Win or go home.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
15912 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 6:24 am to
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It also speaks volumes about O's ability to hire and vouch for their fit with LSU's program Clearly didn't do his research if his style went against what O wanted to do
This is the scary thing in all of this BS and not a good indicator of things to come.

What kind of a Head Coach hires an Offensive Coordinator who runs an entirely different kind of Offense than he wants or DOESN'T EVEN KNOW what kind of Offense he's going to run? That became apparent in the MSU and Troy games.

That defective judgement cost the University millions of dollars to correct the mistake.

It's a short rope people.

Pump Lump MA's better "Beware and Prepare" because the Reality Pumpers are out of patience and will not show any further leniency for dysfunction and negligence.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14817 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:15 am to
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most yards versus bama since 2012. poor first cut. even coaches in the sec agree with us and how O fricked up. i will bet he loved how that offnese worked out in 2016 against bama. they have went so far up this hill now they will die on it if steve does not hit it out the park.


Here comes Fat Bastard again propping up LSU’s loss to Bama and three year low offensive season stats as evidence that Canada was a good OC.

ETA SEC coaches agree, yet with all the SEC OC vacancies last year no one wanted him and he fell all the way to Maryland.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 7:20 am
Posted by countryboy2
Zimbabwe
Member since Jan 2009
1474 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:29 am to
Why are even having this debate? O sucks. That’s the answer. We won’t win shite until he is gone
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:36 am to
Well, there it is. No need to bother with the crowd, bathrooms, concessions, miserable heat and traffic. Countryboy has just informed us that Orgeron "won't win shite." So, I guess we can all save our money this year.

Good times
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:38 am to
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So, I guess we can all save our money this year.


I gave up my season tickets because of Orgeron
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108781 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:41 am to
It's hard to argue against that, but that doesn't mean he won't win shite. Too many unknowns on offense to say one way or the other definitively.
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