re: SEC Basketball Observation

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And there it is… what does Wade have to do with this?

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So you request i provide you more details, and you just ignore it and latch onto this?

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Go back and look at my post history. I hammered Woodward for firing him.

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OK. what does that have to do with any of this? I don't care about your post history.

I simply pointing out the huge disparity between our program, and other similar SEC programs who are in their 2nd or 3rd year of a new coach and are far exceeding the results we are in our 3rd year, despite our recruiting and portal gets being just as good if not better than them.

I do not want McMahon to fail. I want LSU to be a perennial tourney team, but we aren't even close to that and I'm tired of waiting. I was OK with them sucking in year 1. It was expected. They showed growth in year 2. There's no excuse for not being a tourney team this year. I could have even accepted going maybe 8-10 in conference and not making the tourney b/c of the strength of the conference, but we look like a 3 win team, and that's just unacceptable.

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I was OK with them sucking in year 1. It was expected. They showed growth in year 2. There's no excuse for not being a tourney team this year.

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You're just going to ignore the fact that they lost their best front court player (and likely best player overall) to injury for the year?

Believe it or not, that makes a huge difference in getting the wins necessary to put together a solid tournament resume, especially in a conference as tough as the SEC is this year, as others have pointed out.

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You're just going to ignore the fact that they lost their best front court player (and likely best player overall) to injury for the year?

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Reed getting injured may have been the best thing that could have happened for his legacy. He went from being a decent, but inconsistent player to LSU "likely best player overall". his, despite the fact LSU has Cam Carter who has scored in double figures in all but 1 game this season and has been tasked with having to carry an otherwise awful halfcourt offensive approach each night out while playing 33 minutes a game. In SEC play that number has jumped to nearly 37 minutes per game.

Who knew back in December Reed was the lynchpin of what was going to be a surefire NCAAT team (despite the fact LSU was ranked among the bottom 2-3 teams in the KenPom ratings BEFORE Reed was injured) whose absence has caused the season to collapse. Oh well. Maybe next season LSU will avoid any injuries and the rest of the SEC will collapse around them. THEN, we will really see McMahon shine!

Auburn lost the SEC POY...then blew out the #15 team in the country.
Alabama lost their best 3 point shooter (for a team that shoots a LOT of threes)....and kept rolling along.
Ole Miss, a school who I think many people may not have known has a basketball team, is working their way to a likely NCAAT bid in year two.
Florida, who hired a new HC the same year LSU did is a legitimate Final Four contender a year after reaching the NCAAT.

Somehow, only LSU incapable of overcoming any adversity and needs 5, 6, maybe even 7 years to "rebuild" while everyone else seems to be able to adapt

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Where was Vyctorius last night

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If you care enough, watch the game. The information was on the broadcast. Or you could google. If you cant do either of those, you are either lazy or dont care, or both. In any event, figure it out

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Their coach is in his tenth season and has his program entrenched. However in his first three seasons at Auburn Bruce Pearl's record was:

2014–15 Auburn 15–20 4–14 13th
2015–16 Auburn 11–20 5–13 13th
2016–17 Auburn 6–14** 0–11** 11th

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That's amazing! Why didn't Pearl use the transfer portal to immediately remake the roster in those first 3 years? Didn't he know he could bring in an entirely new group of players then? I guess not.

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How the frick can you compare the Broome situation to losing Reed in what for all practical purposes is year two for McMahon who inherited a moribund program with no returning players.

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What does 2, 3, 10 years ago have to do with the rosters for LSU and Auburn THIS season? Auburn loses the (at this point) presumptive SEC (and until his injury) odds on leader for National POY. They beat a great team. LSU loses a decent player, but someone who's not even the POY on his own team and they struggle to compete against major conf. opponents. I just showed you Auburn's roster is composed primarily of mid-major (and below) transfers along with a few 4 and 3 start HS recruits. Not all that dissimilar to LSU's roster. In fact, LSU's current roster has DOUBLE the number of players who were 4 or 5 star recruits than Auburn. And that doesn't include Reed!

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year two for McMahon who inherited a moribund program with no returning players.

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You are aware that significant roster turnover is the norm in college basketball today, right? It does not take 3, 4, 5 years to build a good team. In fact, the new HC at Kentucky returned no scholarship players from last year's roster. Their entire roster is transfers and true freshmen. I can only assume no one told him it's supposed to take, I guess at least 4 years now by your logic since Reed's injury apparently makes this season a loss, to "rebuild" the program.

You're argument might be valid...10 years ago. It's not today.

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but he wasn't some all-sec caliber player, nor is he the best player on the team. He was averagin 11ppg. This was his 3rd year. Yes he was a good player, but i'm not going to accept the excuse that his injury is why we are so bad. We'd still be looking at 4 conference wins at best with him.

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It is like dumb fricks saying Greg Brooks, the fricking green dot is QB on the backend of the 2023 defense with Zy Alexander wouldn’t make a difference on a short fricking foster. There’s really a MASSIVE difference when Derek fricking fountain has to play. Collins and him would have been huge. 11 POINTS IS HUGE WHEN. COUPLED WITH DEFENSE.

BTW go fricking relook because your “stats” do not account for the fact that Arky had the #1 transfer class…

You’re the fricking idiot that started this shite on an Observation ABOUT THE frickING LEAGUE.


And OH, you mean that Mizzou team that I referenced in the original post?

And you ignored that LSU ranked 13 out of fricking 14 in NIL spend on basketball in the conference. I know why. It doesn’t fit your fricking narrative.

Hot damn you seem mad and all over the place. You related to McMahon or something?

I’ll say it again, I don’t want him to fail, nor am I happy when we lose. I don’t care about whatever excuses you want to present. He hasn’t been good and we’ve seen enough. it’s time for a change.

Welp that's one way to spin consistent mediocrity.

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I know most of you are just now watching basketball, but the SEC (this season, among a few years prior) is by far the best basketball conference in a very long time.

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I had season tickets from 78-94. I’ve seen the very best and worst of this in this conference and know more about how it has evolved to the shite game today. I was there when Rudy but his hand in the Elite 8 and when we lost to Louisville in the Final Four. I’ve met Shaq, Stanley and Chris (MAB), eaten in the L-Club during halftime of basketball games.

I know players that cashed checks for riding around in trucks in the 80’s.

Sanderson, Newton, Richardson, Valvano, Williams and especially K i’ll have that dirty little secrets.

This post has nothing to do with the state of LSU basketball because I do believe the conference is pretty strong. It has everything to do with posters on here assuming that running an athletic department is easy when you have to make political decisions every single day. Make no mistake The LSU chancellor, athletic Director, and the board of supervisors are all ponds in the political arena. If you think otherwise you’re fooling yourself.

Brian Kelly and Matt McMahon were hired because of the mess that was the LSU athletic department. Title IX and the blackeye from OLOL and Wade wire taps, proven, or otherwise,