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re: Scott Woodward is the Problem

Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
915 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
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2 baseball championships and a women’s bball championship, really hard to say he’s the problem.


Yes, but he destroyed the football program in the process. Not worth it. He ate the seed corn of the entire university.

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To be honest, BK was as safe a bet as any with his experience and track record. It’s just the contract, but that’s what it takes to land those coaches.


I get it. It was high stakes and he lost. Now it's time to be accountable.
Posted by Darth Aranda
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Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
Thats exactly what I said

It’s a much less competitive market across the board in those sports
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:27 am to
ETA: and it sounds like he may be burning baseball given the fund allocation smoke... yikes
Posted by TigerinKorea
Member since Aug 2014
8859 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:29 am to
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Yes, but he destroyed the football program in the process.


The football program is hardly destroyed. It's been a disappointing season, but it could be a lot worse.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:34 am to
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He can hire a young guy with promise because the program is more stable than it was when Kelly got here.


Right. People can bitch & gripe about the on field performance until they are blue in the face but one they can't complain about is the structure, stability & accountability Kelly has implemented behind the scenes to the football program after left the program in shambles.
Posted by Meauxjeaux
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Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:35 am to
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The football program is hardly destroyed. It's been a disappointing season, but it could be a lot worse.


I see ur one of those people who have no concept of future
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
22539 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:38 am to
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Yes, but he destroyed the football program in the process. 


No, that's what Coach O did on his way out.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14089 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:38 am to
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The football program is hardly destroyed. It's been a disappointing season, but it could be a lot worse.


"It could be a lot worse."


A&M
Alabama
Oklahoma


"Its Hardly destroyed"

Who are we going to put on the field next season? If you were an investor, after witnessing the production by NIL recipients this season, would you continue to invest?
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34096 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:39 am to
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It’s a much less competitive market across the board in those sports


The LSU baseball hire is one of the easiest hires in college sports. NO ONE places more emphasis or puts more resources into its baseball program than LSU. Some may be close to that level (Arkansas, Tennessee, maybe Miss. St and Ole Miss), but none put more. If you are a CBB coach, LSU is a pinnacle job that good coaches beg to get.

Football and men's basketball are different animals. Like you said, it's a much more competitive marketplace. Not every coach is begging for the LSU job, and there are other programs who put more, some much more (basketball) into the program than LSU. It takes more than simply pulling up the guy's wikipedia page to identify who may be the right hire.

Woodward joined the LSU AD when Saban was the HC. When Saban was hired his college resume was not outstanding. He was .500 coach at Michigan St (including a blowout loss to the guy LSU just fired) until his final season. I remember many being upset he was (1) the hire and (2) that LSU agreed to pay him so much ($1M annually). But took someone (Emmert) seeing the traits beyond the record that could potentially make him a good HC. That was the same with Wade. He was a solid HC at Chattanooga and VCU, but not tremendous. But if you met with him you quickly got the sense of the drive and determination to be great with a concrete and unwavering plan (not just banal platitudes) of how to get there.

Sometimes simply hiring the resume works (Mulkey). But in a competitive marketplace you have to go beyond that...even if the fans/donors don't immediately see what you see.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
915 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:41 am to
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No, that's what Coach O did on his way out.


O drove the program into a ditch. Woodward's decisions to this point have ensured we'll be there for a decade.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
915 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:49 am to
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The football program is hardly destroyed. It's been a disappointing season, but it could be a lot worse.


NIL, Portal, and long-term expensive contracts are currently incompatible. Few coaches seem to understand the new model of CFB and unfortunately BK is not one of them. Yet Woodward saddled LSU with a 10 year contract with this guy. Not sure how long you've watched LSU, but I'm not particularly fond of the Archer to DiNardo era. I get the sense we are heading back towards that territory.
Posted by Fat Bastard
2024 NFL pick'em champion
Member since Mar 2009
88973 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:55 am to
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The Rant will tell you these things don’t matter


we like baseball and what JJ has brought

but does baseball pay the bills???

no...so guess what? it doesnt fricking matter sadly because he fricked up hiring burger king.

now if baseball was the main money maker...then hell yes scotts arse could be saved or spared. but it is not. keep performing your mental gymnastics.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
22643 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:29 am to
Hiring JJ was good, hiring Kim at her price for a sport no one cares about is meh.

The hiring of BK was like hiring a less successful Jimbo

His handling of LSU basketball has been down right criminal from how he fired Wade and let the team find out. Hiring a clown, making excuses and bringing said clown back despite all evidence pointing to failure.

Also let’s not forget his job is to raise funds as well and he should have had us ready for the nil world. Fat Scott spent money on stupid ads in Times Square saying NILSU all while we have a bullshite bayou traditions that wasn’t even established then. Then after years of failure and being behind he tries to put into gear. We also have basketball NIL which he mismanaged and it doesn’t exist, partly because of his stupid hire.

So we have two failed coaching hires and outside of baseball our nil was caught with no plan.

Scott thought we should build NIL by letter of law while everyone else saw reality.

Scott is also the last AD that is scared of the ncaa.

It’s time for one of Scotty to go
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
657 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:32 am to
The cheapest women's ticket on stubhub is 9 bucks. The cheapest mens ticket is 5.90. All the women's games are 95% sold out already. The men not so much.
Posted by 5iveEuax4eaux
Member since Jan 2020
657 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:34 am to
We played a bowl game with a WR at QB. No matter what happens Saturday this program is light-years ahead of where it was when Kelly got here.
Posted by RGT
Member since Aug 2024
1556 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 10:41 am to
Destroyed the FB program , 5-2 with 5 games left you o people are Fn stupid!!! Look he has dropped the ball on Sloan but to say Destroyed the program Come on man , CATASTROPHY SYDROME!!!
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13502 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:06 am to
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2 baseball championships and a women’s bball championship, really hard to say he’s the problem.


It’s like people think the AD is only in charge of football
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13502 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:09 am to
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I've hated Kelly since before he got here and didn't want him. But if you look at it through the eyes of Woodward, I can't say it was a horrible idea.


It was a great idea at the time

But on Tigerdroppings, logic goes out the window when the idiots are out for blood like they are



Fire everyone, frick it


See how that works
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
626 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:17 am to
She may pack the center, but women's basketball still loses money! So does baseball. The only sports that turn a profit are football and men's basketball.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13059 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 11:18 am to
The use of the word "destroyed" is not appropriate.
BUT, given the overall record, the performance this year with a bunch of expensive talent, the remaining schedule...and the trajectory of the program next year, the outlook is consistent with a mid level SEC football program, at best. .It will take YEARS, a very good AD and coaching staff and a lot of money (which we may not have) to correct that trajectory.
Look at what talent we return next year.
At a minimum, we will have a new set of coaches on offense.
Our ability to compensate in the portal will depend on the generosity of donors who just saw a bunch of expensive talent squandered...
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