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re: Schematically.......what did LSU and UF do to stop JFF and the Ags?
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:15 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:15 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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or separate their only two difficult games.
They did
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Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:18 pm to EZE Tiger Fan
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PS - No offense to you, but that's a piss poor excuse for Bama.
Oh I agree, just saying. LSU definitely plays a man's schedule, and has for the last number of years.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:22 pm to Moustache
Hybrid 3-2-6 sets, lots of edge speed and spying, alternating when we would spy or drop into a short zone to take away the middle routes. I think Chief just got on a roll and called pass first defenses when they had a pass play called and the same for run plays.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:27 pm to TheDoc
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They did
Oh, I'm aware.
Most of my reply was sarcasm. Wasn't trying to be an arse to the poster who made the statement. Hopefully it wasn't taken that way.
Bama is such a joke. They really are.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:43 pm to Moustache
Bama had to play LSU first.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:46 pm to Moustache
The switch to the 3-4 D shut down the Aggie O.
They attempted to do that, but there O line couldn't budge our lineman up the middle.
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but what prevented TAMU from running it down our throat when he did that
They attempted to do that, but there O line couldn't budge our lineman up the middle.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:48 pm to Moustache
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What did those 2 teams do differently to stop the Aggots better than any other team (including Bama?)
LSU dropped 8 into coverage and forced him to throw. The defensive speed limited the large gains on the ground.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 12:59 pm to moneyg
Lsu matches up well with Texas Jr. If we would have had any resemblence of an offense last year, we win that game by 28+
I am very much looking forward to Texas Jr. visiting Tiger Stadium.
Buzzsaw
I am very much looking forward to Texas Jr. visiting Tiger Stadium.
Buzzsaw
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:19 pm to wilceaux
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I know no one wants to say it, but it didn't hurt that LSU and UF played them early in the year.
I wouldn't say we played them early in the year. A&M opened with Florida, but we played them on October 20th, their game 7.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:46 pm to Chimlim
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That is a general flaw in the A&M air raid offense. Their running game is mostly JFF improvising, and while he is very good at it, it is difficult against fast defenses like LSU and UF. You need a good power running game to beat the better defenses. Urban Meyer learned this lesson, and implemented a FB into his scheme. I honestly don't know if Sumlin has figured it out yet. Sure they feast on lesser talented teams, but without a power running attack, they struggle against teams with good defenses. They simply caught Bama at the right time.
Yes.
You get it.
I watched the Bama/UGA game last night, and one of the most critical plays in that game came with less than 4 minutes, Bama had 3rd and 5 from about the UGA 45.
Saban handed off to Yeldon off the right side, and he broke a safety's tackle to get the first down. Saban ran right there, knowing he was going on 4th down, because they were trailing by 3. He could have picked up 3 or 4 yards, and still got the first down on 4th.
A&M hasn't shown the ability to get 3rd and 2 or 4th and 1 when it counts, nor the ability to stop it when it counts.
This almost always is the key to winning SEC championships.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 1:47 pm to Moustache
Great thread. Good read
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:24 pm to Moustache
like others have said. We contained him and kept the edges closed down. Not to mention our defense is not only talented (unlike most defenses he faced), but we are very athletic and very fast.
Bubba Gump Bama has a bunch of slow players and they just got worn out after a slugfest with us the week prior. Other teams players were just not good enough. Chavis has built our defense on major talent, speed, and athleticism. The "bend but don't break style" works perfect on new-age spread and hurry up offense.
It is very seldom you see anybody go past 24 on us and (only 7 times since Chavis has been here and twice was Ole Miss)
This is why we are in games with such a crappy offense until the end. If we could just get the offense to score at least 4 TDs on everybody but Bama and Florida, we would be unstoppable.
Neither Florida nor Bama run a spread so against our fast defense they won't be racking up tons of points.
Bubba Gump Bama has a bunch of slow players and they just got worn out after a slugfest with us the week prior. Other teams players were just not good enough. Chavis has built our defense on major talent, speed, and athleticism. The "bend but don't break style" works perfect on new-age spread and hurry up offense.
It is very seldom you see anybody go past 24 on us and (only 7 times since Chavis has been here and twice was Ole Miss)
This is why we are in games with such a crappy offense until the end. If we could just get the offense to score at least 4 TDs on everybody but Bama and Florida, we would be unstoppable.
Neither Florida nor Bama run a spread so against our fast defense they won't be racking up tons of points.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:31 pm to wilceaux
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I know no one wants to say it, but it didn't hurt that LSU and UF played them early in the year.
Why in the flying frick do I keep seeing this stupid shite everywhere? This was the EIGHTH fricking game of the year, and we were at freaking College Station. All of a sudden Manziel just got magical better when they played Bama at the end of the season, you know 2 weeks later...
Come on people, you can do better.
This post was edited on 7/29/13 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 7/29/13 at 2:43 pm to Datbayoubengal
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All of a sudden Manziel just got magical better when they played Bama at the end of the season, you know 2 weeks later... Come on people, you can do better.
No they cant.
Manziel if going to be suspended or quit right off the bat this year. If not those two, he will have some nagging injury he can hide behind.
We beat them by 14+,
As far as last year....Mingo and Monty contained and kept him inside, and our backers and safety kept him from hitting the seams. If his receivers play better or if the winds aren't terrible maybe he scores 10 or so more....but if the winds weren't soo bad maybe Mett doesn't look like dog terds.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 3:56 pm to Moustache
a&m is not the same team w/o jff. neither would any other team. running qb's that can also pass pretty well are the core of the teams offense that has them.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 4:00 pm to Moustache
From what I remember they basically would rush up field a few yards and stop. Just contained him and let him run all he wanted behind the line. When they did rush him it was a delayed rush. If I remember I think they got a few coverage sacks on him.
Posted on 7/29/13 at 11:08 pm to Moustache
Speed on defense.
Lsu has a deadly combination of speed and power. And it's only going to get better with our linebackers.
Lsu has a deadly combination of speed and power. And it's only going to get better with our linebackers.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 12:11 am to Moustache
Actually LSU played 5 men on the LOS close. They then played their gaps kept Manziel from getting outside containment and making a nice run or a pass play against a broken defense because of the loss of containment. They forced him to throw 57 times mostly under pressure. His longest run was about 8-10 yards and was only once. This, combined with the punting, did not allow him to get in the redzone too many times. LSU had 3 interceptions because of this, (Actually 4, but 1 was not allowed because of a penalty.) and 2(?) fumbles.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 7:51 am to tigerfoot
I agree. He has little or no impulse control. Sooner or later he will do something that he can't get out of.
But did anyone notice that against the good defenses, A & M would move the ball well early then get stalled later in the game. I think that some of that was his quickness, that he was so quick that it caught teams by surprise and the better defenses eventually compensated by shutting down the running lanes or at least making him start his runs a little farther back from the line of scrimmage, giving them more time to react. Florida, LSU and Alabama slowed him down a lot later in the games. Against LSU they had to settle for early field goals but at Alabama those early drives went for touchdowns. This season, teams will not be as surprised and his lack of patience will result in a few more errors.
But did anyone notice that against the good defenses, A & M would move the ball well early then get stalled later in the game. I think that some of that was his quickness, that he was so quick that it caught teams by surprise and the better defenses eventually compensated by shutting down the running lanes or at least making him start his runs a little farther back from the line of scrimmage, giving them more time to react. Florida, LSU and Alabama slowed him down a lot later in the games. Against LSU they had to settle for early field goals but at Alabama those early drives went for touchdowns. This season, teams will not be as surprised and his lack of patience will result in a few more errors.
Posted on 7/30/13 at 9:07 am to Duckman13
As duck man 13 said, the reason bama lost to a&m they let Johnny football get outside! 
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