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re: Saw your scrimmage stats. Did Coach O indicate it was 1s vs 1s?

Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:34 am to
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:34 am to
Just tell me this and if you can I'll start to believe that you guys can hang around for 4 quarters.

How will BYU create a running game against this LSU defense? Or do you actually think that BYU can find a way to rush the ball? If so then you guys will have a great shot in the end, if not things will get extremly difficult for Mangum. I'll hang up and listen.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:57 am to
How about this, what if your defense can't get off the field? What if your offense can't find good yardage on first down? Imo BYU will have to get creative on first downs, even then, after a few series, LSU will clamp down. I've seen it from Aranda many many times. We held Jalen Hurts to 0 points at the start of the 4th quarter last year, we gave the heisman winner fits all game. Everytime they have a huge challenge this team answers.

They aren't taking BYU lightly at all. This is an LSU team who has been working all spring, summer, and fall in the humidity/heat of S Louisiana. Previously our coach would make the team go indoors on extremly hot days, not this regime, they are conditioned better than the 2011 team was. They have packed on more muscle mass then they have since most have arrived. This is going to be a totally different LSU team then what everyone saw last year @ Lambeau. This isn't Lambeau we're playing at either btw. Go check out all the games LSU has played in this stadium. We have a senior QB with highly touted freshman passers right on his heels.

Our LBs are the deepest they have been since I started watching. Same for DB position, DL is (2) deep across the board with no drop off. Actually some of the backups are more talented. Guice isn't our only RB, we have NFL TEs, WRs, and OLman. Not to mention an offensive scheme that will not be predictable. Something we haven't seen since 2007 maybe even 2006. This scheme is better then both 2006 & 2007 IMO.

We lose players to the draft every single year and with Les Miles sometimes it hurt sometimes it didn't. I would say most times it didn't. His scheme is what really hurt him. If he were still coach I would predict a very close game possibly even a loss like @ Lambeau but since he isn't here, it shall be a good game from the Tigers.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
4560 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:59 am to
With your current cult membership I wouldn't declare anything that comes out of your mouth sane or relavant. Do you need me to write all that down, put it in a hat, and then read it to you?
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 7:00 am
Posted by Passing Wind
Dutchtown
Member since Apr 2015
4140 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:11 am to

This guy says you can declare deez nuts
Posted by TigerBaitTx
East TX
Member since Jan 2014
1046 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:16 am to
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the best mlber n sec

Man I'm as big a LSU fan as anyone, I think Devin White can be a great player. He has physical tools that are out of this world. He may be the best is the SEC this year but there's no way we can declare that at this point. Did you see Guice throw him on his head during the spring game?
Posted by la champ1
Member since Oct 2012
1435 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:56 am to
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With your losses to NFL and no Arden Key, I wouldn't declare anything top 5


D is actually deeper, with more talent, and more experience. Actually believe they will be better this year than last year. Key still might play that game, but we also have Chaisson, Ray Thornton, and Andre Anthony.
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:03 am to
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and more experience.


No..
Posted by Jenar Boy
Elsewhere
Member since Aug 2013
12547 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 8:53 am to
Devin White
Rashard Lawrence
K'Lavon Chaisson
Kevin Toliver II
Kary Vincent Jr

Next ones up
Posted by TFarrar30
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2017
32 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 9:25 am to
Seems like BYU is a relatively good matchup for us... They have a pro style QB and say they want to chunk it downfield... with Key doubtful our youngsters on the DL will benefit from knowing where the QB will be and that he needs time to get it to receivers downfield. Chaisson is a beast and a Key clone.. so that should be a favorable matchup... Our DBs should be able to blanket the receivers (they should be much more athletic and faster than BYU) although we definitely need to avoid the occasional breakdown and not allow one or two long passes. Delpit is showing to be a ball hog at safety and the competition at DBU is intense as usual, so I do not expect any dropoff in our secondary. Their running game is worse after losing their top RBs... that should help with LSUs inexperienced LB corps. A mobile QB who would dink and dunk combined with experienced rushing attack would stress our LB and edge guys... Their LBs should be a strength which obviously pairs well against our strength in the rushing game, but I cant believe they are fast enough to stay with Guice on the edge even if they manage to clog the middle. Guice will get his yards and Canada's use of misdirection and WR in the running game will stretch them sideline to sideline. Speed makes up for a bad first step... doubtful they have that kind of speed. Their DBs will have to also protect deep, I cant believe they will want to press against us... that should open up underneath routes for TE, WR and also RBs and while their LB might be experienced enough to counter some of that they will have to respect the run first. BYU will have played a game and while playing a game is good because of the progress young players make from Game 1 to Game 2.. the flip side is we will have game film on them and they will have last year for Aranda and Pitts for Canada. I think that will offset this advantage especially when we are on offense since no one will have seen Canada's offense as it relates to LSU personnel. Pitts tapes will help with pre snap motion, but everyone knows Canada tweeks his play calling based on individuals. BYU will be forced to prepare for misdirection as well as LSU traditional power game. All that being said I think LSU defense will smother BYU offense and allow our offense to wear down BYU defense.... they cant keep up with Guice all day (especially having to chase WR on runs) even if our passing game isn't prolific. Overall I feel like we will slowly pull away from a scrappy BYU team.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 10:00 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68857 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:45 am to
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As LSU fans, we need to remember that this is the first time this offense will be on the field in a situation that's not a controlled scrimmage.


LSU should still be able to line up and run it on most of the teams they play this year.
Posted by Hoosier BYU Fan
Indiana
Member since Aug 2017
73 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

With your current cult membership...


Posted by Hoosier BYU Fan
Indiana
Member since Aug 2017
73 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:24 pm to
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...and more experience.


How exactly do you have more experience than what you ended with last year? Have the boys in purple and gold been getting in some CFL games over the summer?

And more talent? So you're saying that LSU's new freshman class is more talented than the juniors and seniors that left after 2016?

Or are you saying that the backups last year are more talented than those that left after 2016? If they're more talented, then why weren't they starting in 2016?

I realize that it's the preseason and everyone is saying how the teams are bigger, faster, stronger than ever before. I just didn't think anyone ever bought into that.

Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:48 pm to
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I, unlike most here, expect a hell of a fight from BYU. Until sometime in the 3rd quarter.


That's the way I see it as well. I expect the first half to be close and LSU to pull away around the end of the 3rd quarter or sometime in the fourth.

BYU has a pretty good program. They aren't world beaters but they aren't pushovers either. LSU having a new offensive scheme and BYU getting in a game a week earlier to work out the kinks, may be problematic for the Tigers.

Can't wait for the season to start!
Posted by I-H8-BAMA
Benton, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2013
10427 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:50 pm to
The guy that said all that got a little too excited. I think what he meant to say was that we have crazy good talent all over the place, but inexperience is the main focus right now. Reports from camp have us excited about our freshman group. Grant Delpit is said to be ahead of Jamal Adams at the same point of their careers.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 12:56 pm to
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And more talent? So you're saying that LSU's new freshman class is more talented than the juniors and seniors that left after 2016?


1) The original post is not mine and it is not my position.

HOWEVER:

2) The defense MAY be more talented. LAST year's projected starting DE was injured before the season and missed the entire year (Christian LaCouture) He is a stud and is back. The DL is deeper and more talented than its been since the "good ole days" around here. LSU finally has LB depth. It is inexperienced. But, CERTAINLY more talented (pure talent and depth standpoint)


With the depth at DL and LB and the devastating pass rushers, the DB's will be able to settle in and be helped to develop. The youth at DB is pretty salty and there is enough experience there to help them come along.


This defense projects to be very stout. They young men have to perform, of course. But, the defense is not a worry at all and it is very, very talented and deep.
Posted by igoringa
South Mississippi
Member since Jun 2007
11876 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:17 pm to
BHP - He understood what the OP was stating and is either just trying to be hypocritical or difficult.

Recall in his initial thread he stated about BYU:

quote:

Just too much history as to the mindset and performance of a BYU team to think otherwise.


He has no issue relying on historical trends of his team, just like we rely on reloading and can cite the specific examples (Delpit, Chaisson, Thornton, 2nd year White etc...). People tend to forget we were somewhat vanilla on D last year as we were absorbing an entirely new and complex system of Aranda-Ball

Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2458 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 1:50 pm to
I would agree but did you see the extra muscle that Devin added during the summer? That dude grew up since the spring game.
Posted by DaleGribblesMower
Member since Dec 2013
4560 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:22 pm to
Make no mistake, you're a member of a cult. You freaks aren't dangerous really, just incredibly fricking stupid. Nice enough people I guess. Really shitty magazines though.
Posted by Hoosier BYU Fan
Indiana
Member since Aug 2017
73 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:32 pm to
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Really shitty magazines though.


Just an FYI, you're thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses. Not even close to the same thing, but thanks for playing.

In the meantime...

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:35 pm to
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Just an FYI, you're thinking of Jehovah's Witnesses. Not even close to the same thing, but thanks for playing.









I have to say, I was wondering if "y'all" had a magazine. I was unsure. I don't know all that much about LDS. But, I was really wondering if the other poster was getting upset at the wrong "cult"

(Root Beer)
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 2:39 pm
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