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Saban said this yesterday and he is RIGHT...
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:25 am
“What I say next is: Through the years, I’ve been an advocate of playing all Power 5 conference schools, playing more conference games. I know it’s a more difficult schedule but I think it would be better for the fans, it would be better for … in the playoffs right now, if you want to talk about that, that system is if you lose a game, you’re on thin ice. If you lose two, it’s almost impossible. I think if we played more like the NFL — the New York Giants won the Super Bowl a few years ago and lost six games. You play quality opponents every week and probably end up losing more games, but I think at the end of the day it would be more competitive for everyone involved relative to the fans and players and the selection committee and all the things that go into it.”
This would mean that those million dollar pay days for the South Alabama's and UL's of the world are over...
This would mean that those million dollar pay days for the South Alabama's and UL's of the world are over...
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Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:28 am to doya2
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This would mean that those million dollar pay days for the South Alabama's and UL's of the world are over...
yeah, let's knockout the little man!
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:30 am to jptiger2009
Sorry, but he is right...
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:31 am to doya2
There are Pro's and Con's to both arguments.
Having a few easy games built into your schedule gives you tune ups, allows you to rest key players, and gives backups more experience. The latter being something the NFL doesn't have to really worry about as college players get a finite amount of time with their team. The NFL doesn't have to put as much stock into player development as they can trade players that aren't working out.
He's right about some of the benefits. I think it would make more money for the University and surrounding community as there is a noticeable drop-off in crowds for the rent-a-win type games.
Having a few easy games built into your schedule gives you tune ups, allows you to rest key players, and gives backups more experience. The latter being something the NFL doesn't have to really worry about as college players get a finite amount of time with their team. The NFL doesn't have to put as much stock into player development as they can trade players that aren't working out.
He's right about some of the benefits. I think it would make more money for the University and surrounding community as there is a noticeable drop-off in crowds for the rent-a-win type games.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:31 am to doya2
Theres only 32 NFL teams to pick 12 playoff spots from.
Good luck deciding the top 4 out of a 120 team league when there will probably be 20 teams with 10-2 and 9-3 records.
Good luck deciding the top 4 out of a 120 team league when there will probably be 20 teams with 10-2 and 9-3 records.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:32 am to doya2
quote:
This would mean that those million dollar pay days for the South Alabama's and UL's of the world are over...
But, we would get our money's worth every home game. The UL's of the world are what they are and should stay what they are, 2nd tier.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:32 am to jptiger2009
One thing they can and should do is end the rankings until it becomes a meaningful number. Leaving to smaller schools high and dry is a bad idea.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:33 am to Bmath
Example,
Would you rather see LSU play:
Kansas State
Arizona
Washington State
Or
Jacksonville State
Southern Miss
South Alabama
Would you rather see LSU play:
Kansas State
Arizona
Washington State
Or
Jacksonville State
Southern Miss
South Alabama
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:35 am to doya2
Would they need to maybe extend practices available to make up for lack of "tune up" games?
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:36 am to BeauxNArreaux
A major con would be for an SEC team to play the for-now-eight game league schedule, plus potentially having to play another in the league championship, for a total of 9 SEC games. But even taking that game away, having an SEC team play 8 tough league games plus 3 other Power Five teams...it would come down to which team is the last one standing. These are college teams & if a team, like Fla. now, loses 5-6-7 starters, they are stuck with who is left on the squad.Whereas an NFL team can either trade or pick up another player on waivers when injuries hit.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:39 am to doya2
I might be in the minority here but I've always loved that about college, the urgency. You have to win almost all your games to win a championship, maybe one slip up.
I'm not in favor of more games and a nfl like season. It's why I'm not really a nfl fan because the passions isn't there because they can afford to lose games. It's boring imo.
I'm not in favor of more games and a nfl like season. It's why I'm not really a nfl fan because the passions isn't there because they can afford to lose games. It's boring imo.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:41 am to Keltic Tiger
you would have to have a 6 or 8 team playoff with the conference champion getting the bid. if you had this you could schedule all the games you want. not a bad thing to have 1 or 2 rentawins, but 3 or 4 is too many.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:42 am to Relham10
quote:
I might be in the minority here but I've always loved that about college, the urgency. You have to win almost all your games to win a championship, maybe one slip up.
The problem is that it rewards teams from weaker conferences.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:42 am to doya2
I wish we could do round-robin in the SEC.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:44 am to doya2
I think that every conference needs to have a championship game and the winners of each conference enter the playoffs. Seeding could be determined by a committee.
The teams no in the playoffs could go to the regular bowl games.
The teams no in the playoffs could go to the regular bowl games.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:45 am to doya2
I agree. I always have, call me crazy, but Big 12 has it figured out. Most of their schedule is comprised of Big 12 opponents, yet they still fit in some little guys. That way you get a true champion in the conference - but you don't kill the smaller division schools fb programs. Not sure why Saban is saying this since he gets a hall pass to the SEC Championship every year.
Oh that's right....he's a "true" advocate for college football.
Oh that's right....he's a "true" advocate for college football.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:45 am to SabiDojo
The smaller group of 5 schools base their entire athletic budget on these games against FBS P5 schools.
Not every athlete can go to Ohio State or Alabama. Or even Vanderbilt.
Those small schools need the income of a rent-a-loss to keep their athletes on the field.
ETA: Saban should know this since he used to coach in the MAC.
Not every athlete can go to Ohio State or Alabama. Or even Vanderbilt.
Those small schools need the income of a rent-a-loss to keep their athletes on the field.
ETA: Saban should know this since he used to coach in the MAC.
This post was edited on 11/17/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:56 am to BeauxNArreaux
quote:
Good luck deciding the top 4 out of a 120 team league when there will probably be 20 teams with 10-2 and 9-3 records.
How about picking 6 teams out of a 72 team league with 6 conferences of 12 teams each?
That shouldn't be too hard. Win your division. Win your conference. Make the playoffs. Top 2 teams get a first round bye, like the NFL. 12 team conferences are far easier to schedule than these 14 or 16 team conferences anyways.
Great Lakes:
Iowa St
Iowa
Minnesota
Wisconsin
Illinois
Northwestern
Michigan
Mich St
Ohio St
Purdue
Indiana
Notre Dame
Big East:
Pitt
West Virginia
Louisville
Cincinatti
Memphis
Temple
Penn State
Syracuse
Boston College
UConn
Rutgers
Army
Atlantic:
Maryland
Navy
Virginia
Virginia Tech
UNC
Duke
NCSt
Wake
Georgia Tech
Florida St
Clemson
Miami
SEC:
LSU
Arkansas
Miss St
Ole Miss
Alabama
Auburn
Vandy
Tennessee
Kentucky
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Great Plains:
Colorado
Air Force
Nebraska
Mizzou
Kansas
Kansas St
Oklahoma
OK St
Texas
Texas A&M
Baylor
Texas Tech
Pacific:
Oregon
Oregon St
Washington
Wazzou
Cal
Stanford
USC
UCLA
Zona
Ariz St
Utah
BYU
Only P5 team left out in this scenario is TCU, who would get in if we leave out the service academies.
Army becomes Houston and switches divisions with Temple
Navy gets switched for Tulane (S. Carolina goes ACC, Auburn goes to the SEC East, and Tulane joins the West)
Air Force becomes TCU and trades divisions with OK St.
Posted on 11/17/16 at 9:56 am to BeauxNArreaux
I'd lobby for a sub Division for the Conference USA type schools......
Posted on 11/17/16 at 10:01 am to CharlesLSU
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I'd lobby for a sub Division for the Conference USA type schools......
This is probably necessary but kind of hilarious that it would be the SECOND time Division 1 would be split.
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