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re: Saban did not build LSU into a powerhouse. Mark Emmert did.

Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:33 pm to
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He awakened sleeping giant when no one else could. And he did it again at Bama.
He didn't awaken shite.

Prior to Emmert, LSU had a long and distinguished history of being cheap as frick in football.

LSU hired cheap head coaches, and LSU didn't give those head coaches a sufficient budget to hire/retain/replace quality assistant coaches.

LSU didn't give a frick about facilities.

LSU did not invest in LSU football.

Emmert saw firsthand the error of that tradition in DiNardo's demise. Moreover, Emmert led the creation of the "Flagship Agenda." He wanted LSU to be tops in every significant area, that included the football program, and he knew that a prominent football program was the key to LSU's fundraising. Emmert knew that investing in the football program would pay huge dividends for the Flagship.

The first thing he had to was to hire a head coach. He increased the budget for the LSU head coach to the THIRD highest in the country. Only Fulmer and Spurrier would have higher salaries. Emmert was ready to invest in the LSU football program. LSU, for the first time, could afford to hire almost anyone Emmert wanted.

The belief that Saban could force the LSU administration to make it rain money for his projects is absurd. That's not the way it works. It certainly did not work like that for Saban at Michigan State. Although elf sized, he's not magic. He can't force administrators to give him money.

Prior to Emmert, LSU was unwilling to pay the salary of a high level, organized coach. Prior to Emmert, LSU was unwilling to significantly invest in LSU football. Saban would not have built anything if Emmert was not already planning to do so. Head coaches don't have the money or means to build facilities. Presidents do. Saban was part of the investment, not the cause of it. The plan came first, and Saban was a part of the plan.

Emmert wanted to invest in LSU football. He needed a high level, organized coach to achieve that goal. Almost any high level coach would do.

The flip side is not true. Saban could not go just anywhere and build a prominent football program. He certainly did not build one at any of his stops before arriving at LSU.

Saban did not build LSU. He was just part of the process. An important part of the process, but almost any other high level, organized coach could have done it at LSU.
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2315 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:35 pm to
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You're delusional. You believe what you want to believe.


I’m an old school fan you twat. LSU football changed forever in 97’ vs one team. It propelled them into the national spotlight more than any other game that year.
Posted by Lovestofish
Louisiana
Member since May 2022
52 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:36 pm to
Haha! Y so sensitive bro?
Posted by Sissidog02
Member since Jan 2020
5346 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:36 pm to
Knock knock, knock (on your head)
Hey McFly, butthead!
Knock, wop, knock (what was that?)
That’s my skull! Spicoli replies
That’s my skull
Dude you are in a delusional world snap out of it!
Posted by Alatgr
Mobeezy, Alabizzle
Member since Sep 2005
17660 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:36 pm to
Dinardo left Saban an under appreciated level of talent. The rest of your post is dumb.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 6:37 pm
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2063 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:37 pm to
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DiNardo brought in Faulk and a host of players that ended up winning a NC under Saban.
Wrong Saban legendary 2001 Class was the backbone of the 2003 NC team. You can dislike Saban all you want but deep down every LSU fan knows the program is nowhere among the elites today if it wasn’t for him.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18250 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:39 pm to
And then Xmas throwing the Little Debbies over his fence was crushing.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39390 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:39 pm to
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No. It wasn't Saban.

It was Mark Emmert.

It was Saban. But yeah, Mark Emmert was smart enough to see that Saban was the man. I PROMISE you that if Joe Dean was in charge of the process he would have saved a nickel ninety five and hired some redneck over Saban.
Posted by Lovestofish
Louisiana
Member since May 2022
52 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:40 pm to
Well said
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
67935 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:40 pm to
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Saban built LSU and Bama. Give it a rest



This
Posted by GMoney2600
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
14110 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:41 pm to
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I’m an old school fan you twat.


I'm 40 years old. Not sure why that matters though.

quote:

LSU football changed forever in 97’ vs one team. It propelled them into the national spotlight more than any other game that year.


I was at that game. It was a great moment, but it didn't do anything to make LSU a constant national title contender. It was a mid-tier football program upsetting the #1 team.

I will say that Dinardo did leave Saban with some legit NFL talent to work with though.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 6:43 pm
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
3936 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Salviati


You need help
Posted by LSUKNUT
Naples, Florida
Member since Jun 2007
2315 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:50 pm to
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Saban built LSU and Bama. Give it a rest


Bear Bryant would disagree with you.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64379 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:50 pm to
The Saban hate is funny and sad all at the same time.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11994 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:51 pm to
If Dinardo built it he put it back to sleep. His ego destroyed the defense. His words. I didn't offer the Offensive Coordinator position to a known offensive mind. I didn't want to learn a new offense. Instead I made my WR coach the offensive coordinator.
That WR coach, after Dinardo was fired, went back to teaching elementary school.
Posted by BTRDD
Member since Jun 2009
3397 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:52 pm to
You must be a State appointed, defense lawyer.
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted by dukesilver72
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
916 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:54 pm to
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LSU football changed forever in 97’ vs one team. It propelled them into the national spotlight more than any other game that year.


And we lost to Ole Miss the next week, moron.
Posted by BallChamp00
Member since May 2015
6374 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:55 pm to
What’s up Mr Emmert!
Posted by Lee Chatelain
I love the OT!
Member since Oct 2008
11345 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:56 pm to
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Saban did not build LSU into a powerhouse


Stopped right there. You're obviously special!
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3143 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 6:57 pm to
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DiNardo's salary was $150,000 per year.


This is a big disingenuous. Yeah, that was his salary but he also got another $400K from TV & radio. His total compensation was over $500K. This would be like saying Brian Kelly’s salary is $400,000 since that is what is listed as paid by LSU.
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