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re: Rod Gilmore made most sense in all of this BCS.....
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:39 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:39 pm to Kim Jong Ir
Bama can win against a good team without a special teams?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:40 pm to la_birdman
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I get that. Sorry to be repetitious but we already beat who's second.
In the current system they are still qualified.
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They would be throwing our win out the window.
So no more SECCG rematches?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:40 pm to White Tiger
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What is your evidence for this, counselor?
Oh jeez. Mention you are a lawyer and then we have to get into a debate. Teams like LSU and Bama would never lose to a team like Iowa State. You know it, I know it. The only team that can beat Bama is LSU. The only team that could possibly beat LSU is Bama. Indeed, it is the utter fear that if we play Bama we just might lose that is driving people to post on this board with all sorts of arguments as to why Bama should not be in the game.
We don't fear Oklahoma State. We don't fear Stanford. We don't fear Virginia Tech. Some of us do fear Bama. And that answers the very question as to who is the most deserving opponent.
Case closed.
This post was edited on 12/10/11 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Okie state, if they win will have beaten 5 teams, 7 teams with a winning record
Losing to Iowa St. is hard to overlook.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:41 pm to moneyg
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My guess is most vote based on who they believe to be the best.
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Voters cast ballots based on NO STANDARD.
My guess is most vote based on who they believe to be the best.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:42 pm to moneyg
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Ok. State should get the nod because Alabama was already beaten by LSU.
they haven't even beat OU yet.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:42 pm to Mike Linebacker
A rematch for the bcs cg hasn't happened before. That's what I meant.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:43 pm to moneyg
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Neither you, nor voters can definitively say that Alabama is better than Ok State
Yeah, we can. Anyone who knows college football can easily say Bama would be a huge favorite in a matchup,
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Who would win a play in between OSU and Bama?
Who would win out of LSU vs anyone in the top 10? Already beat 3 of them, and everyone would favor LSU over the rest. Let's not even bother playing the game if this is the way you determine things.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Having watched OSU play this year, I have no doubt OSU could be beaten on any given week by a team like Iowa St. That day they were better.
You would not have said this before the Iowa St. game. Nobody did.
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Do you believe Bama is better than LSU?
No.
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Should there be rematches in the SECCG?
Your analogy is poor. The SECCG is a playoff between division winners.
A better analogy is that, in your world, LSU should be playing Alabama in the SECCG. Do you support that? Absurd.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to la_birdman
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A rematch for the bcs cg hasn't happened before. That's what I meant.
It has in the SECCG. You believe it should hold true there as well?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to Mike Linebacker
Alabama would mudstomp every single one of those other one loss teams and if you are intellectually honest, you would agree with that.
mikelinebacker
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did you say (like 90% of the media) that alabama would mudstomp lsu before 5nov?
no one knows the future, not even YOU.
mikelinebacker
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did you say (like 90% of the media) that alabama would mudstomp lsu before 5nov?
no one knows the future, not even YOU.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
They never lost in regulation...
They landed in ames Iowa 45 minutes before kickoff because the team had to go to stuff that morning
They almost pushed the game back to Saturday because of the crash...
Equally, it was on the road, they were undefeated at home
They landed in ames Iowa 45 minutes before kickoff because the team had to go to stuff that morning
They almost pushed the game back to Saturday because of the crash...
Equally, it was on the road, they were undefeated at home
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'm not reading the whole thread to see if this has been mentioned yet but:
as it is now, OSU has 4 wins over top 25 opponents. Oklahoma would be win #5 if they pull it out.
Alabama only has 2, and that's where it's staying.
OSU clearly has the better resume, not to mention they would be the champions of their conference.
as it is now, OSU has 4 wins over top 25 opponents. Oklahoma would be win #5 if they pull it out.
Alabama only has 2, and that's where it's staying.
OSU clearly has the better resume, not to mention they would be the champions of their conference.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:44 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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So no more SECCG rematches?
With teams from the same division in it?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:45 pm to Eternalmajin
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Who would win out of LSU vs anyone in the top 10? Already beat 3 of them, and everyone would favor LSU over the rest. Let's not even bother playing the game if this is the way you determine things.
You have reading compe issues. Who would you rank first believing LSU would win those games?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, it's done through rankings
Are you making the argument that college football has an objective selection process as proved by the subjective ranking system?
ok.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:45 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Totally agree. It's set up to put the best vs the team considered to be the best challenger.
no, it's not setup that way, it's setup to put the top 2 ranked teams together. An undefeated conference champion from the Pac 12, Big 10 or Big 12 would go before a 1-loss SEC team who didn't win their conference division, even if the SEC team would be a favorite if the 2 were matched up.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:46 pm to moneyg
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Your analogy is poor. The SECCG is a playoff between division winners.
The winner is the SEC champion, even if they lost the head to head. Its a great analogy, you just dislike it because it goes against your little theories.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:47 pm to blackjackjackson
Okie state could beat bama.
I've seen them play every game except the Iowa state one...which I listened to on satellite radio
I was up til 2:30 watching them beat Tulsa after the thunderstorm
I've seen them play every game except the Iowa state one...which I listened to on satellite radio
I was up til 2:30 watching them beat Tulsa after the thunderstorm
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