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re: Rod Gilmore made most sense in all of this BCS.....
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to la_birdman
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to la_birdman
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So why should they go?
Why shouldn't they? Do you advocate pitting number one vs number three?
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to blowmeauburn
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What else should we add?
Could you make a case for 3rd place finish in the SEC?
LSU/ Ga 1 and 2
that means Bama 3
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:19 pm to Mike Linebacker
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By rule, they go.
How so? Just like you said, We beat them head to head already.
"Life is unfair."
No kidding. But this isn't what the BCS is all about. It has NEVER HAPPENED before. I get the fact that you want to play Bama.
This is about what's right and how the system was designed to be.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:20 pm to moneyg
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You are asking the wrong question. The question should be who is the #1 team...and setting up a game to determine that.
We already know through an objective measure (the scoreboard) that LSU is better than Alabama. We don't know that about OSU.
It's not how the BCS works. Human voters will most likely put Bama at number two.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:20 pm to Mike Linebacker
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Something to consider, do you all REALLY want to deal with the fallout from Bama and the talking heads if Bama is left out? Do you want there to be doubt as to whether or not the "best team" actually won the title?
Are you serious?
You do remember that we already beat Alabama. If Alabama were left out, and an Alabama fan tries to make the argument that they were actually better than LSU in spite of being beaten at home, then you get to laugh at them.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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WTF??? LSU is ranked number one in the system.
Roger, it's getting the raw end by having to face a team that is a non-conference champion that it already beat on the road.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why shouldn't they?
Come on, Roger. We beat them on the road already.
Yes, they are one of the best teams out there.
But this would be unfair to us. It's like Nov. 5 didn't even happen.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to rickyh
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Rod Gilmore has my vote for the most intelligent and fair out of the group.
Probably the only football guy at ESPN with a law degree from Berkeley
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to Geaux2002
And let's be honest, even if we whoop them by 4 TD's in New Orleans, they're still going to make excuses and say they were the better team. Who really cares what they say?
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to moneyg
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Are you serious?
You do remember that we already beat Alabama. If Alabama were left out, and an Alabama fan tries to make the argument that they were actually better than LSU in spite of being beaten at home, then you get to laugh at them.
If LSU is the better team, then a rematch isn't a problem.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to ForeLSU
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his point is if Ok State was undefeated most would still consider LSU and Bama the two best teams...but there's no way Bama would jump Ok State to play LSU again. The system isn't simply "who do people think are the 2 best teams".
The system is, the top 2 teams determined by computer polls, the Harris Poll and the Coaches Poll. All of those polls are designed to measure who are the top two teams.
It is true that had Okie State not shat the bed against a shitty ISU team, they would probably get the nod if they happen to beat OU (which they probably won't). But simply because that would have been the wrong result does not mean we should continue that wrong result when they have the same record as Alabama.
Alabama is the second best team in the country. Alabama has the same record as any other team you could credibly nominate for the game. Alabama would mudstomp every single one of those other one loss teams and if you are intellectually honest, you would agree with that.
Alabama should play us for the national championship.
And when we beat them again, it will be sweet. Stop being scared. Stop being a whiner. Stop being a pussy. Grow a pair of balls and say, "Bring it on. Whoever gets into the game, we're going to kick their arse!"
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Why shouldn't they? Do you advocate pitting number one vs number three?
this is a philosophical discussion about determining who to vote #2 after next week, try to keep up...
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:22 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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It's not how the BCS works.
The BCS is a ranking system...a ranking system that is comprised of 66% subjective opinion.
The BCS is whatever the BCS components make it.
You show me the guideline where voters are asked to order teams based only on who they think are the best (not based on specific wins, or resume, etc.) and you'd be correct.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:23 pm to Geaux2002
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Roger, it's getting the raw end by having to face a team that is a non-conference champion that it already beat on the road.
To some, maybe. It happens in the NFL all the time. We have the BCS and if you don't like it, blame the system.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:23 pm to la_birdman
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But this would be unfair to us. It's like Nov. 5 didn't even happen.
Object of the BCS isn't to be ranked first, it's to be ranked first or second.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:25 pm to ForeLSU
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this is a philosophical discussion about determining who to vote #2 after next week, try to keep up...
Not all, you are simply selectively reading certain posts.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:25 pm to LMB46
quote:....AND THEIR COACH.... LOL
Let's get something straight, if Bama DOESN'T end up going, they'll have nobody to blame but themselves (and their kicker).
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:25 pm to NHTIGER
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Probably the only football guy at ESPN with a law degree from Berkeley
I would venture to say, THE ONLY.
That being said, so what? I have a law degree too. Bama is the second best team.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:27 pm to Mike Linebacker
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Stop being scared. Stop being a whiner. Stop being a pussy. Grow a pair of balls and say, "Bring it on. Whoever gets into the game, we're going to kick their arse!"
drop the macho shite, this is just a discussion. I don't care who LSU plays...
Posted on 11/27/11 at 8:27 pm to moneyg
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You show me the guideline where voters are asked to order teams based only on who they think are the best (not based on specific wins, or resume, etc.) and you'd be correct.
My guess is voters cast ballots based on who they actually believe is best. It appears you and your ilk should lobby for a rule excluding rematches.
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