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re: Reid Interception...looked like a completed pass
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:05 pm to purpledawn
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:05 pm to purpledawn
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Redemption from the "stolen" Patrick Peterson interception in 2009.
No redemption for us yet. It was clearly an interception.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:08 pm to Buckeye06
the ball was moving before he hit the groud. so the ball is free to anyo e until the ball its self touches the ground. its the same rule on tds and catching out of bounds. the ball moved tberefore he didnt have possesion.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:09 pm to Buckeye06
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I feel like it's down and the play is done.
agenda maybe just a bit? still butthurt from 07?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:14 pm to donRANDOMnumbers
One ref called incomplete and one an interception.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:15 pm to Buckeye06
the ball was moving before he hit the groud. so the ball is free to anyo e until the ball its self touches the ground. its the same rule on tds and catching out of bounds. the ball moved tberefore he didnt have possesion.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:15 pm to ScootiniTiger
Reid came down with the ball in his hands. That's an INT.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:17 pm to nosaj56
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confirmed on replay (not just stands)
No doubt. Someone else was saying it should have been incomplete but it never hit the ground. It's either a pick or a completion.
Guess the officials felt like it was NOT simultaneous possession, and Reid won the battle.
What a play...they don't get much bigger than that. We have some studs in the secondary.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:17 pm to Buckeye06
quote:FIFY
I may disagree with irrefutable video evidence
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:18 pm to Buckeye06
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I guess right at the 1:18 mark I feel like it's down and the play is done.
He's down while in mid air?

Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:18 pm to duckspanker
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This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:19 pm to Buckeye06
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Reid Interception...looked like a completed pass
It was completed to Reid
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:26 pm to Buckeye06
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LINK
That's the play where Verne shows his true allegiance....


Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:31 pm to tigerdup07
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and had a knee down
he hit flat on his back. how in the hell would one say his knee was down first?
elbow maybe, but not close to having a knee down. try to fall flat on your back and put your knee down first. pretty hard to do.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:33 pm to duckspanker
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If Reid was not in the play and Williams catches the ball, he hits the ground and the ball is jarred loose. Incomplete pass right?
Only once the ball hits the ground. Until then, it's like a tipped pass, and the ball is live.
After the ball has clearly been controlled in a passing play with a run after the catch, then the pass is considered to be complete upon gaining that control. The idea is that the receiver's motion in making the pass involved running and the ball is controlled through that motion. Failure to maintain control after that point is considered a fumble because the pass has completed and the play has shifted into a run phase. Ground contact causing the ball to pop out in that situation renders the play dead, as the ground cannot cause a fumble.
However, in a passing play where there is no clear completion before ground contact (i.e. a diving or falling catch), the completion does not take place at the moment the receiver controls the ball because the to finish the motion undertaken to attempt the catch, the ground must be hit. In this situation, posession must be maintained through the ground contact. Therefore, it doesn't really matter if the receiver had control of the ball before he hit the ground because the it is clear that possession was not maintained through contact and therefore the pass was never completed.
However, a pass not completed is not the same as an incomplete pass. A pass that isn't complete is still a live ball play and it does not become a dead ball incomplete pass until the ball then touches the ground in bounds or goes out of bounds. It follows the exact same rules as a tipped ball and anyone can grab it and take posession.
That's what happened here, and Eric Reid gets a great interception.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:37 pm to Buckeye06
A knee? Did you actually see the replays? the man fell on his back and the ball was bobbling before his back hit the ground. INSTANT REPLAY couldn't overturn it. Why do you think you can?
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:51 pm to coloradoBengal
coloradoBengal....
I can't stop staring at your avi....
I can't stop staring at your avi....

Posted on 11/7/11 at 2:06 pm to SuperFanDan
yada yada yada I thought it looked like blaa blaa blaaa. Anyone that saw the play on tv with the benefit of the replay and a half decent understanding of the rules of the game can clearly see it was a close call visually live that could have been called either way on the field. An via replay there is no argument that the ball was intercepted. Nothing to discuss really. Pretty cut and dry.
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