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re: Reid Interception...looked like a completed pass
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:56 am to Statestreet
Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:56 am to Statestreet
I thought it was clearly an INT when I watched all the replays on TV.
But in that pic it actually looks like the TE has 2 hands on the ball and Reid has 1 hand on his hand???
What happened right after that?
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Posted on 11/7/11 at 7:58 am to blaine159
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you can see the ball being pulled out on the way down, the tip of the ball was coming out of the Bama guys hand and when he hit the ground Reid was able to get total possession....LSU ball!!
This
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:00 am to Buckeye06
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I personally thought it was a hard fought defensive game, but I also think that Stanford or OSUsouth could find some holes and put up some yards.
They probably would....but our D would suffer them enough AND our O would wear down either of those D's easily....especially Ok State.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:02 am to 2007lsuno1
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try to fall flat on your back and put your knee down first. pretty hard to do.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:05 am to Buckeye06
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Just wondering what the rationale was for it (it was reviewed so what exactly was said?) to be an Int. and not a completed pass.
Dr. Lou said it was a catch. That's all the explanation you need to verify it was an obvious INT.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:10 am to TriumphTiger
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quote: Either way, the call was 'confirmed', as opposed to 'stands', which means there was conclusive video evidence for an interception. Call on the field wouldn't have mattered.....
quote: I never paid attention to the difference. Damn - how many years had replay been in effect? Ya learn something new every day.
This made me rewatch the PP7 INT from '09. That review was "stands" and not "confirmed". I feel a little better about that call now. I can easily see how the refs missed it on the field and at least some sympathy for the review guy with regard to PP7's second foot when the ball is clearly secured.
I still think they got it wrong though...
This post was edited on 11/7/11 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:11 am to Buckeye06
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:12 am to Buckeye06
the ball must be controlled through the end of the play. You must go to the ground and keep the ball.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:13 am to Buckeye06
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fair enough I guess I just meant I thought he was down.
you still have to maintain possession. its not automatically a complete pass as soon as you touch the ground. learn the rules
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:14 am to LSUnKaty
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But in that pic it actually looks like the TE has 2 hands on the ball and Reid has 1 hand on his hand???
does it look like he has control of the ball? two hands mean nothing
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:15 am to Choctaw
I really don't care. Peterson interception 2009. Karma.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:16 am to TriumphTiger
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Still, I wonder what the human factor is in overturning a call like this to go against the home team IF they would've called a catch on the field. The meltdown in Alabama would have been legendary!
Yeah, good question, particularly with all of the conspiracy theorists out there!
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:41 am to Buckeye06
I wasn't watching the knee. He did not have control of the ball......Interception......I really appreciate the Refs for not taking the game away from LSU......
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:52 am to Buckeye06
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ball was horribly underthrown should never have happened
Underthrow was in large part attributable to the fact that Maze was about to get lit up by LSU's defensive end. He threw off his back foot (never a good thing even for a talented quarterback, much less a wideout playing QB on a gimmick play)because if he stepped into it he would have been pancaked.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:55 am to LSUnKaty
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in that pic it actually looks like the TE has 2 hands on the ball and Reid has 1 hand on his hand???
That's the problem with still photography. It doesn't show what is happening to the objects in motion. Try to sync up in your mind the moment represented by that photo with what you see on the film from the camera behind the endzone. At that moment the ball wasn't static. It was moving out of the 'Bama player's hands, and the 'Bama player wasn't yet on the ground.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 8:57 am to nycajun
Posted on 11/7/11 at 9:00 am to Buckeye06
Look at it like this. If Reid was not in the play and Williams catches the ball, he hits the ground and the ball is jarred loose. Incomplete pass right? Ball jarred loose right into Reid's chest. Williams didn't maintain possession the through catch, Reid did.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:51 pm to nycajun
quote:That's what I remember from watching the replays.
At that moment the ball wasn't static. It was moving out of the 'Bama player's hands, and the 'Bama player wasn't yet on the ground.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 12:54 pm to Buckeye06
I feel like it was similar to the catch/INT in the Kentucky game earlier this yr... I feel like if the call on the field was a completion, then it doesn't get overturned. Just like the catch by Kentucky that was called a catch on the field.
Posted on 11/7/11 at 1:01 pm to Buckeye06
you are making the mistake that a lot of other people are. Just because the guy hits the ground, doesnt mean its his reception. He has to exhibit control of the ball.
for instance, if Reid is late getting there, and the receiver bobbles the ball on the way down, hits flat on his back and the ball pops up into the air and Reid intercepts it, its an INT, not a reception.
this is the same thing. the receiver never had possession. they can lay on the ground together with the ball bouncing around all night, until someone has possession, its live.
If they BOTH have possession at the same time, then it would be a completed pass.
for instance, if Reid is late getting there, and the receiver bobbles the ball on the way down, hits flat on his back and the ball pops up into the air and Reid intercepts it, its an INT, not a reception.
this is the same thing. the receiver never had possession. they can lay on the ground together with the ball bouncing around all night, until someone has possession, its live.
If they BOTH have possession at the same time, then it would be a completed pass.
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