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Posted on 8/24/24 at 9:22 am to LSBoosie
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And there are actually people on here that believe the BCS system was better than a playoff…
Now lets be fair with this statement . . . They believe its a better system for ranking the teams because it eliminates controversy and conflicts of interest created by a committee. It's not an inditement on the format more on the selection process.
You had to have to have the BCS for the game to evolve to get to the 12 team playoff. No way in hell you go straight from conference aligned bowl games to 12 team playoff.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 10:05 am to Jim Hopper
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way better competitive games than what the playoffs have been.
Final scores for some BCS national championship games:
2012: 42-14
2011: 21-0
2009: 37-21
2007: 38-24
2006: 41-14
2004: 55-19
2001: 37-14
2000: 13-2
Posted on 8/24/24 at 11:57 am to LSBoosie
quote:you just gonna leave out the rest of the BCS games? Now do the playoffs title games
Final scores for some BCS national championship games: 2012: 42-14 2011: 21-0 2009: 37-21 2007: 38-24 2006: 41-14 2004: 55-19 2001: 37-14 2000: 13-2
2014 42-20
2018 44-16
2019 42-25
2020 52-24
2021 33-18
2022 65-7
2023 34-13
Outside of Saban vs Dabo during a three year span and the Tua Hail Mary game the playoffs have been a snooze fest.
Semifinals games are even worse.
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:42 pm to Jim Hopper
You stated that the BCS was "way better competitive games" than the playoffs and I listed 8 championship games in a 13 year span that were blowouts. And you didn't have semifinal games to make up for them.
Last year the semi finals games were 20-27 (OT) and 37-31. The year before the semi final games were 41-42 and 45-51.
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Outside of Saban vs Dabo during a three year span and the Tua Hail Mary game the playoffs have been a snooze fest.
Semifinals games are even worse.
Last year the semi finals games were 20-27 (OT) and 37-31. The year before the semi final games were 41-42 and 45-51.Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:45 pm to cbree88
:doublebird: :doublebird: :doublebird: 
Posted on 8/24/24 at 12:57 pm to LSBoosie
quote:you literally had the 4 other BCS games to make up for those games. Believe it or not the sugar, orange, rose, and fiesta bowl actually meant something during the BCS era.
games" than the playoffs and I listed 8 championship games in a 13 year span that were blowouts. And you didn't have semifinal games to make up for them.
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Last year the semi finals games were 20-27 (OT) and 37-31. The year before the semi final games were 41-42 and 45-51.
2014
59-20
2015
37-17
38-0
2016
24-7
31-0
2017
24-6
2018
45-34
30-3
2019
63-28
2020
31-14
49-28
2021
27-6
34-11
So 7 out of the 20 games In the semifinals have been competitive.
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 8/24/24 at 1:55 pm to Jim Hopper
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you literally had the 4 other BCS games to make up for those games. Believe it or not the sugar, orange, rose, and fiesta bowl actually meant something during the BCS era.
And there were blowouts in those games too. And believe it or not, all of those games currently mean something as they are fricking playoff games.
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So 7 out of the 20 games In the semifinals have been competitive.
And I named a 13 year span in which there were only 5 competitive national championship games. There are going to be blowouts and close games no matter what.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:09 pm to MrWalkingMan
The problem with that is a lot of the country pointed the finger at LSU, when LSU didn't do anything wrong except crucify Georgia and leap USC. The USC bias hate should be directed towards OU, not LSU. Oh and by the way, Chad Lavalais would have had Matt Lienart on his back anyway!
Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:11 pm to lsufanva
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We would've gotten them in 03. The 04 version would've smoked our 03 squad.
As awesome as the 2003 and 2004 USC teams were, I don't think any team would have smoked the 03 LSU D by the end of the season. That was the best pure defense I've ever seen LSU have. They were completely shutting down great offenses by the end of the season. OU had 154 total yards in the national championship game.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:29 pm to MrWalkingMan
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Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:33 pm to LSBoosie
quote:and in a 10 year span I named only 3 games that were competitive in the CFP era, your original argument that started all this was that CFP was better than the BCS when in reality it’s either a push or slight edge given to the BCS simply because you had more prime time bowls than the 3 playoffs games.
And I named a 13 year span in which there were only 5 competitive national championship games. There are going to be blowouts and close games no matter what.
quote:sure they mean something when they are apart of the CFP but when they are left out some years when they are rotating with the Cotton & Peach they are watered down versions of what they were during the BCS when the meant something on a yearly basis. I guarantee you a player like Greedy Williams isn’t opting out of a fiesta bowl game during the BCS era.
And there were blowouts in those games too. And believe it or not, all of those games currently mean something as they are fricking playoff games.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 2:50 pm to TigerBanditjohn
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The problem with that is a lot of the country pointed the finger at LSU, when LSU didn't do anything wrong except crucify Georgia and leap USC. The USC bias hate should be directed towards OU, not LSU. Oh and by the way, Chad Lavalais would have had Matt Lienart on his back anyway!
Bingo. It's a shame an extra game couldn't have been played on 03 to settle it
Posted on 8/24/24 at 3:26 pm to JCPegasus
I remember disliking USC in 2003 and absolutely hating them after I joined this board in 2004. Good times
Posted on 8/24/24 at 3:33 pm to Havoc
All three had “bad losses”
- Us at home to Florida.
- Oklahoma in Conf Champ.
- USC lost to unranked Stanford.
The computer narrowly selected LSU and Sooners in the 1 vs 2 (we were 2).
AP hadn’t signed off on BCS at that point.
I still agree with the iconic pic of the dude chucking a deuce from USC after their win—- they were #2
- Us at home to Florida.
- Oklahoma in Conf Champ.
- USC lost to unranked Stanford.
The computer narrowly selected LSU and Sooners in the 1 vs 2 (we were 2).
AP hadn’t signed off on BCS at that point.
I still agree with the iconic pic of the dude chucking a deuce from USC after their win—- they were #2
Posted on 8/24/24 at 3:42 pm to siliconvalleytiger
I had let my hatred of USC go a while ago and feel nothing towards them anymore until the last few weeks - that hate is bubbling up again and I hope we smack the dogpiss outta them
The media was so annoying with them in that 03-05 run. The split title was an insult. And they just generally haven’t been relevant at all after that run.
The media was so annoying with them in that 03-05 run. The split title was an insult. And they just generally haven’t been relevant at all after that run.
Posted on 8/24/24 at 4:35 pm to Jim Hopper
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and in a 10 year span I named only 3 games that were competitive in the CFP era, your original argument that started all this was that CFP was better than the BCS when in reality it’s either a push or slight edge given to the BCS simply because you had more prime time bowls than the 3 playoffs games.
No, I believe that if you have a league of 70 P5 teams and at the end of the season you only give 2 of them a shot at a championship, it's a dumb idea. There is a reason all of these leagues have a playoff system instead of just picking who they think the top 2 teams are.
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sure they mean something when they are apart of the CFP but when they are left out some years when they are rotating with the Cotton & Peach they are watered down versions of what they were during the BCS when the meant something on a yearly basis.
All 6 of those New Years 6 bowls will be a playoff game every single year. No one is going to opt out of those.
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I guarantee you a player like Greedy Williams isn’t opting out of a fiesta bowl game during the BCS era.
Greedy Williams would never opt out of the Fiesta Bowl in this system either because, once again, it is a playoff game.
This post was edited on 8/24/24 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 8/26/24 at 6:02 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Same
Posted on 8/26/24 at 6:09 pm to lsufanva
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The 04 version would've smoked our 03 squad.
LOL
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Leinart and Bush
both way overrated, as confirmed in the NFL
Posted on 8/26/24 at 6:13 pm to HoustonTigerNKaty
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The computer narrowly selected LSU and Sooners in the 1 vs 2 (we were 2).
we were #1. It was between OU and USC to play us.
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AP hadn’t signed off on BCS at that point.
LOL. They didn't have to sign off. All colleges signed off to allow the BCS formula select the teams to play for the NC. The Ap poll played a part, 1/3 of the formula, the same as the Coaches poll, and the final 1/3 was the bcs formula primarily strength of schedule.
LSU was the BCS National Champion, which all colleges had agreed to let decide the national championship.
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