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Rant Lawyers: Jurisdictional Problem with the SEC Suit?

Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:36 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 1:36 pm
LSU is a subdivision of the State of Louisiana.

The 11th amendment generally bars federal courts from hearing claims against States.

I guess they can Ex Parte Young it for injunctive relief, but only against named officials, right?

It has been a LONG time since I took federal courts!

Any issue here?
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18751 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 5:02 pm to
Liz Murrill just said this is a defense.

Like her or not, she’s a sharp lawyer.
Posted by LSU4LIFEo85
Member since Jun 2020
168 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:18 pm to
I believe the University will be able to claim immunity through the state.

There are tons of standing issues in both parties in the various capacities they allege damages.

Truly wild and super interesting to follow. Weirdest LSU season ever. We play Clemson day after tomorrow lol
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
117560 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:19 pm to
I've said that multiple times.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:21 pm to
They are also asking for a declaratory judgment on a situation that hasn’t happened yet and their claim that this is a 1st Amendment issue is laughable.

Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
12035 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:22 pm to
It's possible that they toss LSU as an institution. But that's why they named Kiffin as a defendant.

In any event, the merits are shaky (at best).
Posted by Pedropatterstine
Member since Aug 2026
720 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:22 pm to
Theybarent tossing LSU.
Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
12035 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:25 pm to
quote:

Theybarent tossing LSU.

You a constitutional lawyer or just talking out of your arse?
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
4254 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:33 pm to
I think you’re right on the money. Might be a younger abstention issue also and maybe some others. It’s a loser.
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
17903 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:37 pm to
Forum shopping at its best.
How do you think the Alabama court is going to rule on all this crap?
That Alabama proceeding will be worse than Donald Trump trying to get a fair trial in New York.
Posted by ComebackEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2020
54 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:37 pm to
Isn’t Kiffin considered a State employee who is acting in that capacity.
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:38 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18751 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

younger abstention




Posted by Guava Jelly
Bawston
Member since Jul 2009
12035 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

Isn’t Kiffin considered a State employee who is acting in that capacity.

I think that's probably the case as far as the facts are concerned. But they named him personally in the suit.

The obvious defense is that the immunity extends to him, because he was acting in his "official capacity."
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18751 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:45 pm to
quote:

Isn’t Kiffin considered a State employee who is acting in that capacity.


Yeah. If he is acting under color of state law, I think they can enjoin him under Ex Parte Young.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58644 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:46 pm to
dumb and dumber said it best:

you cant triple stamp a double stamp

case closed and geaux tigers
This post was edited on 9/3/26 at 6:48 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18751 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:48 pm to
FYI:

Liz pointed out that the SEC is an unincorporated association that, unlike a corporation or an individual, enjoys no First Amendment rights. I think she might be right about that.
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
58644 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:53 pm to
Liz also pointed out how slimey it was to file that federal case while we were in court today.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18751 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 6:55 pm to
quote:

Liz also pointed out how slimey it was to file that federal case while we were in court today.


Yeah.

I know the Birmingham firm that filed it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41781 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Ex Parte Young


I thought that required the officials to be acting outside their authority.

They are literally following the rulings of a state court.

No bylaws can override a judicial opinion , right?
Posted by TigerFreddy
Member since Dec 2007
367 posts
Posted on 9/3/26 at 7:13 pm to
I fricking love her. She will wind up being the best attorney General this state has ever had.
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