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re: Putting the Orgeron hire in perspective
Posted on 10/10/18 at 3:24 pm to justice
Posted on 10/10/18 at 3:24 pm to justice
Any person on this planet that thinks that there are not 20 more qualified head coaches than Orgeron, at the time of the hire, I can no longer take serious.
I'm all for supporting the guy, and hoping he has tons and tons of success as the head football coach of LSU, but come on.
I'm all for supporting the guy, and hoping he has tons and tons of success as the head football coach of LSU, but come on.
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Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:06 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Any person on this planet that thinks that there are not 20 more qualified head coaches than Orgeron, at the time of the hire, I can no longer take serious
90% of them would want to bring their own people in so there goes your beloved Aranda. The point of hiring O was keeping most of the staff intact and preserve recruiting so LSU wasn't set back several years. But please continue with your phenomenal ignorance.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:11 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Dp
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:14 pm to bencoleman
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90% of them would want to bring their own people in so there goes your beloved Aranda. The point of hiring O was keeping most of the staff intact and preserve recruiting so LSU wasn't set back several years. But please continue with your phenomenal ignorance.
Finally admitting this isn't a rebuild. #progress
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:17 pm to lsu2006
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Finally admitting this isn't a rebuild. #progress
I've never had a problem admitting this. It became somewhat of a rebuild due to losing several people off of the offensive line. Not sure who was lost off the defensive line.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:21 pm to burke985
Look I get the beat Saban talk but if every coach who hasn’t beat Saban was fired , there would be openings at every sec school except Auburn.... Let that sink in. And they ( Auburn) wanted to fire malzone if he lost the LSU game in 2016.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:25 pm to LSUStar
Which games would Miles have won that O has not won this year?
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:31 pm to bencoleman
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90% of them would want to bring their own people
Well since you're in the business of making up statistics, 99% of possible candidates are more qualified to be the head coach at Lsu than ed Orgeron is.
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so there goes your beloved Aranda.
Are you really dumb enough to think people would be that upset about losing a defensive coordinator if it meant getting a competent head coach?
Actually nevermind, I've seen your posts. Of course you are.
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The point of hiring O was keeping most of the staff intact and preserve recruiting so LSU wasn't set back several years. But please continue with your phenomenal ignorance.
Orgeron was hired in 2016. His first full recruiting class was the worst Lsu recruiting class since recruiting rankings became a mainstream thing. Most are already discussing 2019 being "the year."
How's that not setting back several years plan working out?
This post was edited on 10/10/18 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:46 pm to Open Your Eyes
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Are you really dumb enough to think people would be that upset about losing a defensive coordinator if it meant getting a competent head coach
I didn't make the reasoning up you retarded motherfricker. I'm telling you that was the reason. As far as recruiting it was the recruiting class at the time not the following one.
How's the plan working out? Ask alleva you dumb frick.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 4:46 pm to LSUStar
This DL coach thing is the only point of view all you negatigers want to say. It's about 5% of the truth and y'all will never admit it. I can reword your statement and say the opposite easily.
Back in 2016, who on this board would have thought the notion of firing CLM to replace him with a coach that in his last two opportunities as interim hc improved those teams well beyond expectations, has been known as one of the best recruiters in the nation for the last couple of decades, and has Louisiana ties with all of the top high school programs, while still being able to keep the best DC in the nation was a good plan? How can anyone who is a real supporter of the school and the football program say that that was what they thought was the best way to replace Miles?
Back in 2016, who on this board would have thought the notion of firing CLM to replace him with a coach that in his last two opportunities as interim hc improved those teams well beyond expectations, has been known as one of the best recruiters in the nation for the last couple of decades, and has Louisiana ties with all of the top high school programs, while still being able to keep the best DC in the nation was a good plan? How can anyone who is a real supporter of the school and the football program say that that was what they thought was the best way to replace Miles?
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Back in 2016, who on this board would have thought the notion of firing CLM to replace him with the DL coach was a good plan? How can anyone who is a real supporter of the school and the football program say that that was what they thought was the best way to replace Miles?
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:09 pm to bencoleman
You sure are an angry little feller
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:11 pm to Tigerbuzz8585
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Back in 2016, who on this board would have thought the notion of firing CLM to replace him with a coach that in his last two opportunities as interim hc improved those teams well beyond expectations, has been known as one of the best recruiters in the nation for the last couple of decades, and has Louisiana ties with all of the top high school programs, while still being able to keep the best DC in the nation was a good plan? How can anyone who is a real supporter of the school and the football program say that that was what they thought was the best way to replace Miles?
Selective statistics and facts are fun!
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:11 pm to bencoleman
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I didn't make the reasoning up you retarded motherfricker. I'm telling you that was the reason.
Oh ok. Then it should be really easy for you to provide proof, since you didn't make this up and know this to be true.
Feel free to provide a link to a quote from an actual Lsu decision maker that says Orgeron was hired to keep the defensive coordinator. We'll be waiting.
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As far as recruiting it was the recruiting class at the time not the following one.
That's a blatant lie, all the talk at the time was about how bigtime the junior class at Lsu was going to be at the time and how it was important to keep Orgeron for the sake of that class.
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How's the plan working out? Ask alleva you dumb frick
Bring alleva to the message board then dumbfrick. If you can't handle being asked questions about stupid decisions and stupid statements then don't post about stupid decisions and don't make stupid statements.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:16 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
quote:stop with this nonsense.
LSU was just ranked #5 and beat two top 10 teams. Maybe let the season play out before this thread will be valid.
In 2015, we were ranked no. 2, then lost 3 in a row by double digits.
This year, the no. 5 ranking was a fraud, and most of us knew it.
And those two "top 10" wins? Miami will end up with a good record, but they're a fraud, and Auburn is turning out to be not very good.
Let's just see how we get through the rest of the season, but I see at least 3 more losses. I hope I'm wrong and we win out, but I don't wear P&G glasses.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:27 pm to Tigerbuzz8585
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This DL coach thing is the only point of view all you negatigers want to say. It's about 5% of the truth and y'all will never admit it.
Back in 2016, the truth was Sly Croom had a better head coaching resume than Orgeron. I'll admit that.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:38 pm to atltiger6487
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This year, the no. 5 ranking was a fraud, and most of us knew it.
Where do you think LSU should have been ranked going into Florida?
I'm not asking how many other teams you felt were better, but knowing the way college football rankings work, where should they have been ranked before last Saturday?
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Let's just see how we get through the rest of the season,
I hope you realize you made that big ole argument, and then finished by saying exactly what I said, which was wait till the dust settles on the season to evaluate.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:47 pm to bencoleman
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retarded motherfricker.
you are such a bitch Posted on 10/10/18 at 5:55 pm to Tigerbuzz8585
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This DL coach thing is the only point of view all you negatigers want to say.
say what now?
ed orgeron is the worst coach in the history of ole miss football.
NOBODY was interested in hiring ed orgeron to be their head football coach outside of lsu.
ed orgeron openly campaigned for the syracuse head coaching job, a school he had coached at previously. syracuse never even brought him in for an interview.
usc refused to promote orgeron from interim to full-time head coach after spending nearly 10 years at the school and allegedly having a successful interim head coaching stint.
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It's about 5% of the truth and y'all will never admit it.
so you think youre bullshite you typed after this is the other 95% of the truth?
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his last two opportunities as interim hc improved those teams well beyond expectations
you neglected to mention his previous opportunity as an actual head coach. why is that?
i have no idea what usc's exppectations were, or if that usc team improved "well beyond expectations under his watch. i do know they chose not to hire him when they had every opportunity to, as he openly campaigned for the job and had the full support of the current players. doesnt sound to me like they were all that impressed with his improvement of the team.
i do know that in his interi stint at lsu he was 6-2. the 2 losses were at home to a 9-4 florida team that was completely decimated by injuries at the time, and a shutout at home against alabama in which lsu was clearly only trying to keep the score close and had no intention of trying to win the game. the 6 wins came against teams with a combined record of 40-36.
the fact that you consider the above improvement "well beyond expectations" tells me youre just another orgeron fan with your heart set on lower expectations.
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has been known as one of the best recruiters in the nation for the last couple of decades,
as a position coach.
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nd has Louisiana ties with all of the top high school programs
what ties did saban and miles have with the top high school programs in louisiana prior to their arrival? how were they able to be successful recruiters without previous ties?
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while still being able to keep the best DC in the nation was a good plan?
you have credible information that says dave aranda was leaving lsu if ed orgeron was not named the head coach?
Posted on 10/10/18 at 6:51 pm to lsu2006
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You sure are an angry little feller
No I'm not. It's just the dumb shite gets frustrating. It's not an argument.
Posted on 10/10/18 at 6:56 pm to justice
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justice
Looks who’s talking... fricking geek.
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