re: Put LSU in Alabama's situation

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that LSU wasn't deserving in 2007 because they had 2 losses.

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yea you're gonna have to go ahead and quote where i said that

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It's very easy to separate what i am saying if you use a little brain power.


My position is the Bama is the most worthy 4th team this year. 2011 has nothing to do with that.


What does 2011 have to do with my argument?

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You brought up 2011, a past event, to justify Bama getting in now. That's precedent. Don't say you don't care about precedent when you're trying to use it to make a point right this second. And then accusing me of not using my brain Kinda like when you tried to call out my use of "objective" and disappeared.

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You keep saying they werent worthy yet they proved to be the best team in the nation.

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No they didn't. they just won a rematch while a more worthy team sat home. They won the trophy, but that's not the point of this conversation.

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Which makes it a total LNCHBOX argument for you to act like not winning your conf championship excludes you from being the best team.

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Bama getting Bama treatment is incredibly relevant. I'm out of this conversation, you're insistent on being a dumbass. Have fun with it.

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You brought up 2011, a past event, to justify Bama getting in now.

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lol no.

2011 was brought up to prove that the best team doesn't always have to win its championship. Of course you are going to run along now, because you can't argue with that fact.

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Kinda like when you tried to call out my use of "objective" and disappeared.

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I called your use of objective out because you said there is no objective way to prove Bama was one of the 4 best teams this year. I agreed with your premise, as there has never been a truly objective way to form the playoff. You tried arguing with me when I was agreeing with you, which is why i questioned if you knew what that word meant.

You cant objectively put any team is, as there is no set criteria. It really really really isn't that hard to understand

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Reality is Alabama earned their way into the playoff over the course of the season. You need to deal with it.

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Why do I need to deal with it?

I really don't care.

However, using your logic, why aren't other 1 loss teams that have more wins against top 25 teams being considered? Or better yet, another unbeaten conference champ?

I'm just addressing the current state of affairs. I see no problem with that.

You mean put Alabama in Ohio States place.
Would it be fair then?

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Lots of truth right here.

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yet if LSU was a 2 loss Big12 champion in 2007 they don't play in that game. Being from the SEC propelled them into that game


same way if Bama was 1 loss non-conference champ from any other conference they dont sniff the 4 team playoff this year.

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Because the purpose of this thread is to show your anti-Alabama bias and you've proved it.

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LOL.....

Uh....

You aren't bright, are you?

The point of the thread is to put LSU in Bama's place and asked if LSU would get the same treatment.

That answer is no, and I explained my answer.

Same would hold true if the question last year was "put LSU in Ohio State's place". That answer would be no.

Or better yet, for you, put UGA in Bama's place this year....UGA sits at home. So on and so forth.

Of course I'm not a Bama fan. LOL. I graduated from LSU. I'm also not a Notre Dame fan.

I really don't get what point you think you are trying to make here.

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I guess you lack reading comprehension.

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I do not.

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I asked whether or not you felt like LSU should be in.

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I, in fact, addressed that in my first post in this thread. You chose to ignore that portion of my reply.

That answer was "no".

I also provided a FANTASTIC example in reference to LSU, which was 2011.

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I will never feel a non division winning team should compete for a national championship. Never.

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Whether or not a team wins its division is irrelevant to the issue of a National Championship. I fail to see why people think this is the case.

Sometimes one conference is just better than the rest. A one loss team in one conference may have been an undefeated team in any other conference. It was bad luck that they had a powerhouse in their own. However, that does not mean that the team does not have a claim to be in a playoff for a national championship or that they aren't better than the rest of the field.

Every sport outside of college sports recognizes this --- that is why they award the "wild card" spots. If you are going to have a true national championship conference titles should mean very little. The best teams get in, period. Consider:

In 2016 two ACC teams received No. 1 seeds in the NCAA tourney.

In 2009 3 Big East teams received No. 1 seeds.

In 1997 the two best baseball teams in America were LSU and Alabama. And it was not even close.

I am sure if I took the time I could find another dozen such examples.

These anomalies happen. Playoff programs need the flexibility to deal with it.

They should just do away with Conference Championship games.

They don't mean anything if you win but if you lose they hurt you.