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Pushback groundswell is beginning to pick up steam

Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:51 pm
Posted by Longdriver98
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:51 pm
Coaches from Nebraska, Ohio State and Penn State are expressing frustration and looking at options to play elsewhere if the Big 10 Presidents move to cancel season. Saban is now finally speaking out, more players are joining the united movement. Where the hell is Dabo?

Posted by SUB
Member since Jan 2001
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:53 pm to
Harbaugh also spoke out against cancelling.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15773 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:55 pm to
If the Big 10 cancels the season, schools in the Big 10 should be able to do what ever they want and play wherever they want for this years season.

This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:00 pm
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:58 pm to
O needs to be beating the drum today. Don’t let the others get the attention
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
10463 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:58 pm to
Saban's comments -

quote:

“I want to play, but I want to play for the players’ sake, the value they can create for themselves,” Saban told ESPN’s Chris Low. “I know I’ll be criticized no matter what I say, that I don’t care about player safety. Look, players are a lot safer with us than they are running around at home. We have around a two percent positive ratio on our team since the Fourth of July. It’s a lot higher than that in society. We act like these guys can’t get this unless they play football. They can get it anywhere, whether they’re in a bar or just hanging out.”

Saban went on to say that Alabama tests its players at the beginning of each week and that he brings in an epidemiologist to address the football every two weeks, according to Low.

“We also test anybody that has symptoms and have an open testing site where they can go and get tested as many times as they want or any time they feel like they need to,” Saban said. “But our guys aren’t going to catch (the virus) on the football field. They’re going to catch it on campus. The argument then should probably be, ‘We shouldn’t be having school.’ That’s the argument. Why is it, ‘We shouldn’t be playing football?’ Why has that become the argument?”
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14797 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:59 pm to
Only Iowa and Nebraska would be doing so. Tosu president voted to no sports
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15773 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 3:59 pm to
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Only Iowa and Nebraska would be doing so. Tosu president voted to no sports


Correct
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10439 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:01 pm to
So using apples and oranges comparisons is what he’s going to try and use to sell his argument?

Ummm. If everyone in the population was taking these tests it’s likely also 2%. Instead you have people that are either sick or been exposed to someone that was positive being tested. Of course that stats will look significantly worse.
Posted by supersaints9
Colleyville,Tx
Member since Dec 2009
14141 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:04 pm to
quote:

“But our guys aren’t going to catch (the virus) on the football field. They’re going to catch it on campus. The argument then should probably be, ‘We shouldn’t be having school.’ That’s the argument.





He is EXACTLY right !!
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
25944 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:08 pm to
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looking at options to play elsewhere if the Big 10 Presidents move to cancel season



As if the B1G is going to let that happen
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77292 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:20 pm to
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As if the B1G is going to let that happen



what exactly is the Big 10 going to do to stop those schools that voted no to cancelling their season if they go play?

Threaten to remove them? The Big 12 would add them as quickly as the Big 10 cut them loose...
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
11284 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:21 pm to
doesn't matter one bit
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
25944 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:33 pm to
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The Big 12 would add them as quickly as the Big 10 cut them loose...


You mean the same Big 12 that NU just left because it was tired of being jerked around by Texas?


quote:

what exactly is the Big 10 going to do to stop those schools that voted no to cancelling their season if they go play?


quote:

Threaten to remove them


Or suspend them, or dock their share of the revenue, etc. Either way, you can bet your arse that this will end up in court before any P5 conference lets its members play with another conference for a season.


Nebraska's ire should be directed at the other schools in their conference. The members chose to cancel, not the league unilaterally.
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28209 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:54 pm to
quote:

he argument then should probably be, ‘We shouldn’t be having school.’


And THAT just opens the door for the school presidents to go "all virtual". That will be the "out". Too much backlash from people wanting to play, and too much noise from the nervous-nellies and vocal virtue signalers wanting to shut everything down indefinitely

The predictable headline will be "most prominent coach in college football questions the logic of in-person classes". Fatal statement by Saban
This post was edited on 8/10/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26593 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 4:57 pm to
I love Coach O, but he is all in with JBE. He won't buck the company line, if Edwards is for cancellation.
Posted by tschla1
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2010
940 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:19 pm to
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We act like these guys can’t get this unless they play football. They can get it anywhere, whether they’re in a bar or just hanging out.”


The difference is their lawyers are telling them if they (the athletes) catch it in a bar and die from it, the University isn't libel; whereas if they catch it on the practice field or in the locker room they are subject to lawsuits. Liability waivers aren't worth the paper they are written on - anyone can sue.

Personally, I don't think there's a jury in the land who will award anyone a dime because they caught coronavirus from a bar/business/school/church/etc and then sued; but that is what all of these presidents are afraid of - the lawsuits.
Posted by LSUBadger
Member since Jan 2014
2238 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:23 pm to
No lawyer is going to be able to prove where any person got the virus. It is an impossibility.

The school liability argument is weak sauce
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98396 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 5:57 pm to
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If the Big 10 cancels the season, schools in the Big 10 should be able to do what ever they want and play wherever they want for this years season


You are taking about. Huge revenue shortfall for schools.
Posted by kkv75
Member since Sep 2017
4890 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:02 pm to
It could be the breaking up of the conferences as we know them. And maybe the end of the NCAA as we know it. NCAA is non-existent.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
19965 posts
Posted on 8/10/20 at 6:42 pm to
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No lawyer is going to be able to prove where any person got the virus. It is an impossibility.

The school liability argument is weak sauce




Create a waiver. You want to play, sign it. You don’t want to sign it, leave academic scholarship open for the next season but no guaranteed spot on the team (or leave it open to them, not important)

It’s time we are allowed to accept our own risks. If this is about player safety (not bringing it home to grandma as per previous concerns), let them decide if they want to or not. They are adults.
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