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re: Punter needs to be addressed before 2025
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:27 pm to Sharlo
Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:27 pm to Sharlo
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There are probably 4-5 better punters at other LA schools right now. I'd think grabbing a punter off the portal would be like getting a new hammer at Lowes. Plenty on the shelf.
From his stats, that's what it looked like last year when we got Ochsendorf.
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Posted on 11/20/24 at 9:45 pm to iamandykeim
A&M game was horrible
Posted on 11/20/24 at 10:39 pm to iamandykeim
Snapper sticks out to me more but when I read about the yards lost from the punter I'm pissed at all of them. The holder seems to be the one who has done the best.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 11:35 pm to Chalkywhite84
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Ramos is at 78% and 1/2 from 50+.
You could have Harrison butker, without a consistent long snapper/holder it doesn’t matter. Slade Roy may be literally the worst I’ve ever seen for LSU.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:09 am to TigerOnThe Hill
NM
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 12:10 am
Posted on 11/21/24 at 2:15 am to Red Stick Tigress
I'll reiterate everyone who said BK is arse. Next season will be something else he fricks up.
If Woodward, assistant coaches, and or Gordon McKernan types have to keep telling him what to fix and who to hire, then wtf is Kelly good for?
If Woodward, assistant coaches, and or Gordon McKernan types have to keep telling him what to fix and who to hire, then wtf is Kelly good for?
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:57 am to iamandykeim
also, nothing against our FG Kicker, but we need someone with a little more range. These guys today on most teams are pretty good from 55 to 58 yards. I think 50 is about our limit, and that may be stretching it. It is a big asset to have.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:05 am to WaterLink
quote:Not entirely true
Good ST has been a staple at LSU since Saban
Saban's teams had good return games, but he never put emphasis on the kicking game. As I recall, he left the kickers alone and expected them to be about average.
That was famously one of Miles' advantages early on when Saban went to Bama... Miles spent more emphasis on ST.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:21 am to iamandykeim
quote:
Punter needs to be addressed before 2025
The special teams unit as a whole in terms of kicking/punting needs to be addressed. The only unit that has been somewhat productive has been the Kick return unit.
Our special teams punt and kicking units have been very poor. It is actually very disappointing.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 6:24 am to BowDownToLSU
quote:ST has been poor since Kelly got here.
The entire special teams units need to be addressed. From snaps , holder, kicker. When and where to field the ball. ST definitely gets an F grade this season.
It was the returners and coverage teams his first year. Last year was ok but the return game was incredibly weak considering we had Malik Nabers on our team.
Much like firing Raymond- letting McMahon walk looks like another mistaken
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:29 am to BowDownToLSU
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The entire special teams units need to be addressed. From snaps , holder, kicker. When and where to field the ball. ST definitely gets an F grade this season.
Miles’ teams were frustrating, but it’s a phenomenal formula for winning football.
Stellar special teams.
Aggressive, staunch defense.
Ball control, hopefully capable offense.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 9:30 am
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:03 pm to NotaStarGazer
He didn't have true SPEC TEAMS coach his first 2 years and still doesn't honestly. Low IQ.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:42 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
You can go find a decent punter in Many high schools in Texas. Its a shame we have a crappy punter on Scholarship.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 11/21/24 at 7:06 pm to Vincenzo Pantangelli
Special teams coach is NOT that important for a punter. That is an individual position...it isn't like coverage on a punt or coverage on a kickoff. Once again, to say that punters and placekickers have not been a priority for LSU is utter nonsense. 5 on scholarship probably leads the nation in that regard. And BTW, PKs which you didn't bring up have been fine. Nothing wrong with Ramos other than he can't kick 55 yard FGs.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 12:49 pm to NotaStarGazer
I'm not talking about punters I'm talking about punt block/return schemes. Ours is terrible. Our average starting field position has been disastrous.
Posted on 11/22/24 at 1:02 pm to Vincenzo Pantangelli
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Our average starting field position has been disastrous.
I agree that on exchange of punts, LSU loses about 10 yards. But it has not been related to the return game. It is related to the fact that LSU has the worst punting average in the SEC. In almost every game I have checked the stats, the other team averages in the mid to high 40s. LSU's punters last time I checked was about 37 yards. I can't remember the last time that LSU blocked a punt but in my memory LSU only had one deflected/blocked this season (South Carolina game), Blocked punts just don't happen hardly any more.
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