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re: Power, Politics, and the Fall of Scott Woodward

Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:38 am to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:38 am to
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Fact or fiction? Inquiring minds want to know.


If he were fired in 2017 right after he signed his contract, then he would have been owed $75million. He wasn’t.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:45 am to
Woodward was the one who agreed to a buyout clause that would pay Jimbo the remaining balance of his contract with no offset, and no duty to mitigate. The extension didn’t change that at all. It would have been impossible to walk that back when negotiating a raise and extension. If Woodward hadn’t agreed to that horrible buyout provision, firing Jimbo would have cost A&M a fraction of what it ended up costing.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:46 am to
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sure. It was really $67.5 million when Woodward left. Still, A lot of money.


If Bjork doesn’t extend his contract it would been around $39 million whenever Jimbo was fired. But it was still a bad contract. If you look at big name hires out there, there’s a lot of big money buyouts because it gives the coach job security for taking the risk. Look at Lincoln Riley’s buyout, it’s just as insane.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:47 am to
I was referring to the amount when Woodward left A&M
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 9:48 am
Posted by Captain Beyond
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:49 am to
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If he were fired in 2017 right after he signed his contract, then he would have been owed $75million. He wasn’t.


Right after he signed his contract? The day after?

Your reading comprehension is lacking. The question is regarding the language of the original contract. So apparently you agree.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:52 am to
Here is another piece building on and summarizing the drama playing out. It probably deserves its own thread.

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LSU Is Finally Starting to Look Like Louisiana Again


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For years, LSU has been governed like a university embarrassed by the people who built it. Under William Tate and Scott Woodward, the school followed national trends that had little to do with the values of Louisiana and everything to do with the politics of Washington and the corporate Left. Theirs was an LSU that measured itself by how it looked on ESPN, not how it served the state.


That is beginning to change.


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Governor Jeff Landry’s decision to clean house at the flagship university—accepting Tate’s resignation, parting ways with Woodward, and insisting on accountability in athletics—marks the start of a long-overdue course correction. For the first time in years, LSU’s direction reflects the electorate that funds it rather than the pundits who lecture it.


As reported earlier, Woodward’s fall was a symptom of a deeper rot. Inside LSU athletics, he was treated like a master deal-maker; in reality, he left behind one of the most expensive mistakes in university history. Advisers urged him to restructure or reassign football coach Brian Kelly to preserve LSU’s negotiating position. Instead, he chose to terminate Kelly outright, triggering a buyout worth tens of millions of dollars and surrendering the university’s leverage. The misstep revealed what LSU had become under his watch—a place where perception mattered more than prudence. In any real organization, a blunder that large would demand accountability.


At LSU, it finally did.


At the same time, President William Tate steered the broader institution toward fashionable national causes that felt foreign to Louisiana’s culture. His administration expanded diversity bureaucracies, mandated bias trainings, and treated the Legislature not as partners but as potential adversaries. In his own words on The Pivot Podcast with former LSU star Ryan Clark, Tate admitted that he “started at a place of mistrust” with state leaders and reminded listeners that he “was not from Louisiana.” Those statements said out loud what many LSU insiders and alumni already felt—that LSU’s top office had grown detached from the people it was meant to serve.


That detachment became even clearer when Ryan Clark took up the cause. Clark’s commentary has become a running case study in how far some national voices have drifted from the values of Louisiana. On his ESPN platform, he has repeatedly inserted race and politics into LSU’s internal affairs. He helped lead the 2020 Black Lives Matter march on campus and turned on Ed Orgeron after the coach praised President Trump.


This fall, on First Take, Clark attacked Governor Landry for proposing a statue of conservative activist Charlie Kirk on LSU’s campus, calling the idea “ridiculous” and “the first dumb thing [Landry] said this week.” He went further, claiming that Kirk “doesn’t represent the people of Louisiana, doesn’t represent the players and the students at LSU, [and] doesn’t represent the executives that work there.”


But that outrage says more about Ryan Clark than about Louisiana. The state’s voters have made their priorities and values unmistakable. In the 2024 election, Donald Trump carried Louisiana with roughly 60 percent of the vote—his fourth straight double-digit victory here. The same electorate sent Mike Johnson to Washington, elevated him to Speaker of the House, returned Steve Scalise and John Kennedy to their posts time and again, and sent Jeff Landry to the Governor’s Mansion without a runoff. These are not outliers; they reflect a state that values free expression, faith, and personal responsibility. The notion that honoring someone like Charlie Kirk—whose activism centers on those very principles—is “ridiculous” simply ignores who Louisianans are.


Landry’s critics call his involvement in LSU “political.” In truth, it is restorative. For years, university leadership aligned itself with a liberal minority, while the state’s majority—those who fill Tiger Stadium on Saturdays and pay the taxes that sustain the school—watched their values dismissed as backward or extreme. By reasserting control and demanding that LSU’s culture reflect its constituency, Landry is bringing the institution back into alignment with Louisiana itself.


Even long-time boosters have sensed the drift. Baton Rouge attorney Gordon McKernan, speaking on Matt Moscona’s After Further Review, described a program that had “empty suites, empty seats, and no energy,” with a brand “getting damaged” by complacency and self-promotion. His words captured what many alumni feel—that LSU lost its fire not because of a lack of talent, but because of leadership more interested in politics than pride.


Now, with Dr. Wade Rousse taking the helm, LSU has a chance to rebuild the right way. Rousse brings a blend of business acumen, academic rigor, and Louisiana roots that could finally make the university both representative and dynamic. He understands that LSU’s strength lies in its people—students from small towns and big cities, families who believe in work over words, and communities that expect excellence without arrogance. If he succeeds, LSU can become not just a great Southern university but a model of how a flagship institution can reflect the character of its state.


Cleaning house wasn’t an act of vengeance — it was an act of alignment. For too long, LSU operated like a northeastern liberal campus dropped into one of the most conservative, faith-driven, and freedom-minded states in America. Louisianans expect their public institutions to reflect their values, not reject them. The elections prove it. The renewed energy around LSU shows it. And now, at last, the governor’s actions reflect it.


The loudest objections come from the same small circle that turned LSU into a national social experiment — the Baton Rouge elite and the media figures who cover the university both on and off the field. For years, they’ve built careers and influence by defending the status quo, protecting access, and insulating the university’s leadership from criticism. They see Landry’s reforms as a threat because they undo a decade of control, privilege, and carefully managed narratives — a system that served insiders well but left the average fan and taxpayer behind. But for the vast majority of Louisianans, the meaning is simple: their flagship is finally starting to look like their state again.


And with the right leadership, it can stay that way.


https://www.louisianapolicyreview.com/post/lsu-is-finally-starting-to-look-like-louisiana-again
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
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Member since May 2004
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:53 am to
Look, I’m no Woodward defender and I think he still had to go. But at the same time, there’s a reason these buyouts are so massive. It’s a risk-reward feature for both the school and the coach. Georgia, Alabama, Oregon, USC, Texas, all have massive buyouts. Kirby Smarts buyout is $105 million ffs. Nobody talks about it because Kirby is worth it. But money talks.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25604 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:57 am to
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Right after he signed his contract? The day after? Your reading comprehension is lacking. The question is regarding the language of the original contract. So apparently you agree.


Your comprehension sucks too, because the $75m buyout just means that the entire contract money is guaranteed, meaning if he were to be fired in year one, or even a day after signing the contract, he was owed all $75 million of the 10 year contract. He wasn’t fired in year 1 though, and Woodward wasn’t the one who extended his contract, thus making his buyout at the end bigger. So the $75 million dollar figure thrown around is misleading.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19808 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 9:59 am to
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Not a fan but SW did not negotiate Jimbo's contract / extension at A&M. That was done by the previous AD. SW was just there at the end.
nope - Woodward was the AD who gave Jimbo the initial 10 year, $75 million ridiculous contract at A&M.
Posted by Captain Beyond
Member since Oct 2025
13 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:05 am to
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So the $75 million dollar figure thrown around is misleading.
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Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12776 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:39 am to
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For the record - I think Landry is a moron too, but Woodward and Kelly are not victims. Let’s drop that narrative.


This needs to be the main message.
Posted by BoogahEatah
Live on Stage
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/11/25 at 10:43 am to
At least he didn’t cover up rapes.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
36045 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 11:02 am to
I notice on all of these LPR articles, no one sets their name to most of these posts....just Staff@LPR

It's just a letters to the editor opinion site....shite, created with Wix....so even SDV could figure his way through most of creating it......or reprints

These people know next to nothing about what has or is going on with the HC search.....which puts them at or below the same level as Jeff Landry.
Posted by savecf101
Member since Dec 2024
82 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:01 pm to
There is now another Landry placed piece:
LINK

Making LSU look more like the rest of Louisiana is not a good thing. LSU was making strides the last ten years up the elite ladder. Landry is bringing it back down fast.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
169045 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 12:51 pm to
Lol that was written by a Landry simp. For example this never happened:

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A registered Democrat and protégé of James Carville, Woodward was handpicked for the LSU job in 2019 by then-Governor John Bel Edwards.


Alexander (also a democrat) was “nudged” to hire Woody by the BOS and TAF who were ready to bring in an LSU guy to replace Alleva.

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They had already hired a guy I had never interviewed — a guy I had never met,” Alexander said in Friday’s story. “They had already negotiated a salary. He (Williams) wrote down the numbers on a cocktail napkin and said ‘This is what we’re paying our new athletic director.’”


Here’s the tigerrag article on what really happened.
LINK

Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34196 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:00 pm to
What a hyperbolic load of red meat BS


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At its core, this was not a sports story — it was a political one. The fall of Scott Woodward marks the end of an era in which Baton Rouge insiders could run LSU as their personal brand engine while the public footed the bill.


The "public" didn't foot the bill for Kelly, nor will they foot the bill to get rid of him. If anything, the "public" DEMANDS LSU only hire the best coaches, regardless of cost. If Nick Saban signed tomorrow with a 4 year $150M deal the "public" would be ecstatic.

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Governor Landry’s message was unmistakable: the people of Louisiana, not a handful of political operatives, will decide the future of their flagship university.


Yes, Frank the contractor from Crowley, Roger the accountant in Covington, or Shelia, the "homemaker" from Colfax should be selecting LSU's coaches. Maybe they can start a Facebook survey.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34196 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:10 pm to
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Lol that was written by a Landry simp. For example this never happened:


Donors were already fed up with Alleva because of the 2015 - 2016 Miles circus, combined with the fact that despite all of the posturing, LSU ended up hiring a HC (Orgeron) no one else in America would have hired.

Then, in March of 2019, Alleva suspended Wade at the end of LSU's best regular season in nearly 40 years. The crowd at the season finale vs. Vanderbilt was brutal towards Alleva. The donors sided with Wade and pushed Alleva out. F. King soon followed

Flash forward to spring of 2025. Wade is kicking arse at McNeese while LSU basketball sucks. A group of SW La. "money people" and Landry donors decided they had the muscle to get Wade back to LSU. Landry supported the push because he could look like the hero for bringing Wade back to LSU. Tate and Woodward shut the push down quickly. That defiance of the governor's wishes was a mortal sin and Tate was told to go elsewhere. Once the football season collapsed, the Governor's supporters saw an opportunity to throw Woodward out with the bathwater because everyone agreed BK needed to go.

In short, Will Wade may be one of the most influential people in LSU sports history. He was at the center of pushes to get rid of two presidents and two ADs
This post was edited on 11/11/25 at 1:11 pm
Posted by jonboy
Member since Sep 2003
7441 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 1:13 pm to
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But for the vast majority of Louisianans, the meaning is simple: their flagship is finally starting to look like their state again.


Not a single fellow alumnus or sidewalk fan I've talked to since this started feels this way.
Posted by savecf101
Member since Dec 2024
82 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:15 pm to
So, is this the Louisiana that they want LSU to look more like? LSU is/was better than this. Now, Landry wants to bring LSU back.

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Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34196 posts
Posted on 11/11/25 at 2:25 pm to
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So, is this the Louisiana that they want LSU to look more like?


The bozos penning this article would advocate for a return of Ed Orgeron. No coach "looks" more like Louisiana than Orgeron. Plus (because no other major program in any other state would consider hiring him as an HC) he would accept a "fiscally conservative" contract the "taxpayer" purportedly demand.

I'm not saying O is the first choice, or even the 7th choice. But with people with some degree of power sharing the mindset set forth in these articles, he's not a non-consideration. A fact that would make LSU look like Louisiana more than any of these ding-dongs could imagine.
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