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re: Possibility of a 10-2 LSU missing the playoffs?

Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:37 am to
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:37 am to
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That leaves 7 spots likely split between just the SEC and BIG10.


Exactly, so that would leave 8 teams:
(& that’s not counting on ACC or B12 having a strong 2nd team)

SEC CG loser (Tex/UGA)
B10 loser (Ohio St/Oregon)
Tenn
Ole Miss
Bama
LSU
USC
Penn St

Maybe we get in over Ole Miss bc of H2H
Posted by iamandykeim
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:37 am to
10-2 with 1 loss being in game 1 would mean we are in. other 10-2 teams wouldn't have finished as strongly as us.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:38 am to
LSU won’t finish the season with double digit wins so it doesn’t matter
Posted by Hurricane2020
Member since Apr 2020
2998 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:41 am to
That's the bad part though. If we make the SEC title game at 10-2 (7-1 SEC) and lose we are most likely. But if we are at 10-2 (7-1 SEC) and miss the SEC title game then we are basically guaranteed a spot.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:41 am to
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10-2 puts us at 7-1 with win over 2/3 OU, Alabama, Ole Miss
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11425 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:41 am to
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LSU won’t finish the season with double digit wins so it doesn’t matter


I can’t imagine being this negative, this early. At least wait till we play Ole Miss
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11425 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:44 am to
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If we make the SEC title game at 10-2 (7-1 SEC) and lose we are most likely. But if we are at 10-2 (7-1 SEC) and miss the SEC title game then we are basically guaranteed a spot.


No way, man. Teams won’t get penalized for losing their conference championship game in a 12 team playoff (at least SEC or B10).
I haven’t looked into tiebreakers for SEC, but I don’t think 10-2 LSU is getting into SEC CG over 11-1 UGA, Tenn, etc
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:45 am
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
6785 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 am to
This is last years standings prior to the bowl games and playoffs.

1 . Michigan . . . . . . 13-0
2 . Washington . . .. 13-0
3 . Texas . . . . . . .. . 12-1
4 . Alabama . . . . . . 12-1
5 . Florida State . . . 13-0
6 . Georgia . . . . . . . 12-1
7 . Ohio State . . . . . 11-1
8 . Oregon . . . . .. . . 11-2
9 . Missouri . . . .. . . .10-2
10. Penn State . .. . .10-2
11. Mississippi . . . . 10-2
12. Oklahoma . . .. . 10-2
13. LSU . . . . . . . .. . . 9-3

2023 Standings Prior to College Football Playoff Selection

If we use 2023 as a model, they would have had to deny a 10-2 team a berth in the playoffs to fit in a Group5 team.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11641 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 am to
I’m not trying to be negative. Just trying to be realistic.

But I can start pumping sunshine until we get to that point if you’d like
Posted by MikeTheTiger11
Sip
Member since Sep 2023
576 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:48 am to
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I’d predict there will be a few 10-2 teams left out of the playoffs.


There absolutely will be. But we'd have marquee wins over potentially Bama, OM, OU, A&M with one of those likely resulting in a loss in a 10-2 scenario. That resume wouldn't be left out.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:00 am to
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In the new format, the selection committee will automatically give every Power Four conference champion a place in the top-four, followed by the highest-ranked Group of Five champion, with the other seven bids awarded to the remaining best at-large teams in the nation.


There can definitely be a chance a 10-2 team in the SEC doesn't get in, especially when there will be multiple SEC teams with at least 10 wins. I can see up to 5 teams in the SEC with 10 or more wins, and the BIG will have several too. With 5 automatic bids and only 7 at-large, decisions will be made and some 10 win teams will be left out.
Posted by ccox11
Member since Sep 2014
1086 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:01 am to
It'll probably be impossible for this team to be 10-2 with a nonconference loss because that would make them be 7-1 in the conference which would very likely put them in the SEC championship where a win would give them an automatic bye in the playoffs and a loss would make them 10-3 and hurt their chances of getting in...
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11425 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:05 am to
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a loss would make them 10-3 and hurt their chances of getting in


I disagree with this completely. You’re the 2nd best team in your conference, but the committee decides to put in 3-4 other SEC teams in ahead of you? No way
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:06 am to
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If we use 2023 as a model, they would have had to deny a 10-2 team a berth in the playoffs to fit in a Group5 team.

The problem with using last year as an example is that many of those teams are now in the same conference. I believe there will be less 10-2 teams this year due to more of those teams having to play each other.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:09 am to
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There can definitely be a chance a 10-2 team in the SEC doesn't get in, especially when there will be multiple SEC teams with at least 10 wins. I can see up to 5 teams in the SEC with 10 or more wins, and the BIG will have several too.

What 5 SEC teams do you think would have 10 wins. I would like to see how the math works out on this.
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11425 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:12 am to
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If we use 2023 as a model, they would have had to deny a 10-2 team a berth in the playoffs to fit in a Group5 team.


Still have to let the season play out, but let’s look at this hypothetical just teams without specific rankings:

Ohio st
Texas
UGA
Oregon
Miami
Utah
USC
Penn State
LSU
Bama
Ole Miss
Tenn
Mizzou
G5 team

Someone getting left out, but some of these teams could very well end up 9-3
Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11425 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:13 am to
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What 5 SEC teams do you think would have 10 wins.


See my list above - it’s a possible scenario to have up to 6
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
8625 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:21 am to
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What 5 SEC teams do you think would have 10 wins. I would like to see how the math works out on this.


Have you seen how ridiculously easy some of the schedules are? I could easily see Ole Miss, Tennesee, & Texas having 10 wins. Mizzou, LSU, and A&M in the mix too, and that's not counting Bama & Georgia. I think OU's schedule is too hard, and no chance the rest of the bunch gets to 10 wins in the regular season. That's 8 teams potentially with 10+ wins.

This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 9:24 am
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
13274 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:22 am to
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See my list above - it’s a possible scenario to have up to 6

But the math doesn't really work. For example, Alabama plays Georgia, Tennessee, Mizzou, LSU, Oklahoma. For every game that someone wins, another team has to lose. I don't know that having 6 SEC go 10-2 mathematically work unless you have some major upsets.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61297 posts
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:24 am to
It's a little early to claim 10-2 as a sure thing coming off a squeaker against South Carolina.
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