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re: Poche inconsistency last night
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:11 am to Brettesaurus Rex
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:11 am to Brettesaurus Rex
If them boys can pull off another championship he won't give a shite about his last start at the Box.
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:12 am to Brageous
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I think also he was slightly irritated with the tight strike zone.
He was hitting it just fine the first two innings.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:15 am to PhillyTiger90
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May be unpopular but CPM should consider starting him vs FSU. He's good enough to take them on Would much rather have Lange vs Oregon St
Not no but HELL NO! Poche is to inconsistent to start game 1. This is not a game we can afford to lose. While I agree we should save Lange for Oregon St, I would throw Walker. The kid is hot and coming off almost 2 weeks of rest. He is good enough to win that game and seems to be emotionally mature enough o handle it. Right now our 2 best options are Lange and Walker.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:18 am to moneyg
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Remember, he melted down in the regional too.
Why do people keep saying this? Poche did not pitch his best against Texas Southern, but he was ok. He only gave up one earned run. The defense was atrocious behind him.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:18 am to TiggerB8t
After reading through this thread I think there are a lot of good points as to what happened to Poche. The slip and fall, tight strike zone, wet ball, emotions etc.
it was probably just a combination of all these factors. The whole thing just snowballed on him.
it was probably just a combination of all these factors. The whole thing just snowballed on him.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:19 am to Sasquatch Smash
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remember the defense melting down against Texas Southern, more so than Poche.
Definitely! Kramer shite the bed that game. These young men play on emotion and momentum. Everybody has bad days, and last night was his...just hate that it happened his last game in the Box!
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:24 am to Lakeboy7
quote:His zone wasnt a zone at all, for either side. It was terrible. The MSU relievers just gave up and started throwing meat.
No doubt, and the bi polar strike zone
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:26 am to 1badboy
I hated to see that, so wanted him to have a good outing last night.
I hate arguing balls and strikes, but that zone really was nonsensical.
I hate arguing balls and strikes, but that zone really was nonsensical.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:47 am to Oyster
Oyster, well said - it did snowball on him. The point of my post iwas that nobody, including the TV announcers, made any comment about the slip and fall - I assume because he wasn't injured. Big Ben knows as well as anybody that aside from getting a secure push off the rubber, the ability to establish a consistent planted foot on the stride toward the plate is ultra important to a pitcher's mechanics. Especially with a guy like Poche who thrives on hitting his spots rather than power fastballs.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:58 am to wryder1
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Not no but HELL NO!
I agree, but for different reasons. Poche has shown a chink in the armor. When the game is an emotional high and things don't go his way, he quickly gets frustrated and looses the zone.
I think going into Omaha, you start off with Walker Game 1, Lange Game 2, and Poche in Game 3. The reason being is the first game in Omaha is ALWAYS an emotional roller coaster. Everyone's amped up to play in the CWS and mistakes usually are made. Walker has shown the ability to be composed and emotionless on the mound. Which, in that environment, is absolutely crucial. Once things settle down and the team gets accustomed to playing in that environment, Poche will do the same. He'll bounce back.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:06 am to rsbd
quote:And son that is where babies come from
Wet balls and emotions
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:34 am to TiggerB8t
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sproblem last night started immediately after the slip on the mound - he ended up walking that batter then giving up the HR and 3 straight walks
Texas southern it was errors.
This time it's mud.
Omaha it will be sweet brown baby jesus' glare off his crown.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:42 am to Brageous
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I think also he was slightly irritated with the tight strike zone.
Yeah that ump was ridiculous
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:45 am to DupontsCircle
If you do start poche in a game, you need a lot short leach than last night, you won't be playing pitcher deficient miss st or Texas southern.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:47 am to Brageous
The ump was crazy inconsistent in that stretch. Pitches he got in the first couple innings were balls in the 3rd.
FWIW, I thought they were probably balls, but dammit, if it's a strike in the first it should be a strike in the 3rd. I do think he got frustrated with trying to find that ump's zone, but weather, the slip, etc....all that probably contributed.
I hate it for him...he deserved a more fitting end to his Alex Box career...great Tiger!
FWIW, I thought they were probably balls, but dammit, if it's a strike in the first it should be a strike in the 3rd. I do think he got frustrated with trying to find that ump's zone, but weather, the slip, etc....all that probably contributed.
I hate it for him...he deserved a more fitting end to his Alex Box career...great Tiger!
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:49 am to EZE Tiger Fan
quote:That's what was frustrating, though. Same pitches in many instances were suddenly balls in the 3rd.
He was hitting it just fine the first two innings.
Ump was bad for both staffs...not saying it was just Poche having to deal with it. Just think it affected him more because he typically is a location pitcher and depends on the corners.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:13 am to Fishhead
Funny how all these issues for senior Poche (ump, mud, heat, emotions) and none for sophmore Gilbert
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:14 am to FightinTiga
I think the moment got to him....understandable when eat,sleep, and shite LSU Baseball your entire life.
Posted on 6/12/17 at 11:37 am to TiggerB8t
Wow, did he have a melt down last night or what? That was Brittany spears 2007 level esque
Posted on 6/12/17 at 12:24 pm to Sasquatch Smash
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I remember the defense melting down against Texas Southern, more so than Poche.
He started the game (adrenaline is highest) single, single, walk before settling down enough to get out of the inning with only a couple of runs. Loading the bases in the first inning with no outs is a sign of pressure.
Then after settling down, an error kind of started the meltdown again...error walk, single, walk before another error ended his day.
We also saw him melt down in the CWS against TCU in response to his own errors. This was after he was settled down and cruising. He went from dominating to missing spots and getting hit...night and day.
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