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re: Please just read this article before condemning Casey
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:43 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:43 pm to lsupride87
Fact the kid is a liar based on those 2 facts
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:43 pm to Topwater Trout
Some of you need to watch the film 12 Angry Men. One of the best films ever produced. The original was a black and white version but I thought the 1997 version with Jack Lemmon was even better
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:44 pm to Magician2
quote:True. But oddly enough the cancel culture people don’t really care about pedophila stuff.
Fact we live in a cancel culture society
They care about being racist or sexist and that’s pretty much it
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
You don't just plead guilty to something like this if you're innocent. No matter the circumstances.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Correct.
Fact the kid is a liar based on those 2 facts
Up to the individual to think which one is the lie. I have found most people that have read up on it think he didn’t do it
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 pm to ProjectP2294
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This post was edited on 4/15/23 at 7:47 am
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:46 pm to nola000
quote:
Don't worry about it dude. I already tried to present the facts/details of this particular case but these holier-than-thou snowflakes want to be outraged about something. This is just the conservative version of virtue signaling.
And a built in reason to bitch about the potential hire because it’s not the guy they want. A lot of this board has had their nose so far up Vitello’s arse since the smoke of CPM retiring started going up that if he made a sharp turn it’d break their necks. They’ve made up their minds he’s the one they want and anyone else mentioned just won’t do. Reminds me of Tennessee fans revolting against Schiano under the guise of the past Sandusky shitstorm when really and truly they were just pissed Gruden didn’t happen.
ETA I would love the Vitello hire if it happened. Sully, McDonnell, or Godwin would be damn good too. I just wouldn’t mind a Casey hire one bit either, the dude is elite.
This post was edited on 6/9/21 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:47 pm to TigerReb7
quote:Terrible advice in a case like this
You don't just plead guilty to something like this if you're innocent. No matter the circumstances.
He would have been found guilty and you would then say he is guilty because he lost the case, and now he faces the full charges as well
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:47 pm to nola000
Did Casey know about his legal troubles when recruiting Heimlich...I’ve heard OSU knew before the case was leaked.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:48 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
1 small problem with the custody battle trick/crazy ex wife excuse....it was his own brother that turned him in to the cops and as of this article still won’t be in the same room with him. The revisionist history BS is the least surprising thing I’ve ever read. The guy clearly abused that young child. It’s disgusting to think about. F Pat Casey for playing a child molester.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:50 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
Please, LSU! There are better options than 62 year old Casey. Don’t make that mistake! He will not prove the recruiter we need !!!
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:50 pm to TigerReb7
quote:
You don't just plead guilty to something like this if you're innocent. No matter the circumstances.
quote:
Among experts on juvenile sex offenders, the disconnect between the two Lukes is not surprising. "Either the kid didn't do it or he did it and he's in some form of denial: Neither one is unusual," said Carolyn Frazier, a juvenile defense lawyer and assistant professor at Northwestern's School of Law. "To be innocent and plead guilty to something is not unusual." She then quoted a line from a national columnist's February condemnation of Heimlich and OSU: If you were absolutely innocent—as Heimlich contended—how many of you would plead guilty to felony child molestation simply to avoid trial? Thought so.
Frazier sighed. "That's another instance where, if you're a practitioner in this world, you're ripping your hair out," she said. "I'm, like, Dude, this happens all the time."
LINK
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:52 pm to TigerReb7
quote:
You don't just plead guilty to something like this if you're innocent. No matter the circumstance
This is objectively false. I’ve had clients do it.
Read the facts.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:52 pm to lsupride87
Having worked on the law enforcement side of this….
This kind of stuff happens all the time in custody battles. Sexual misconduct accusations can be a terrible weapon….and often there is absolutely no evidence involved besides accusations and hearsay.
A totally innocent person can get accused of this….and they go to their lawyer and it basically goes like this “if this goes to trial and the prosecutor can convince the judge, you’re going to go to prison for a decade(and we all know what happens to that demographic in prison) and then register for the rest of your life…..or you can take the deal, do community service for 6 months and receive intensive psychiatric treatment for a year.
The fear of a decade of abuse in prison can make an innocent man take the deal.
Luke Heimlich’s parents made him take the deal even though they always maintained his innocence
All that being said,
Hire McDonnel
This kind of stuff happens all the time in custody battles. Sexual misconduct accusations can be a terrible weapon….and often there is absolutely no evidence involved besides accusations and hearsay.
A totally innocent person can get accused of this….and they go to their lawyer and it basically goes like this “if this goes to trial and the prosecutor can convince the judge, you’re going to go to prison for a decade(and we all know what happens to that demographic in prison) and then register for the rest of your life…..or you can take the deal, do community service for 6 months and receive intensive psychiatric treatment for a year.
The fear of a decade of abuse in prison can make an innocent man take the deal.
Luke Heimlich’s parents made him take the deal even though they always maintained his innocence
All that being said,
Hire McDonnel
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:54 pm to fierysnowman
quote:The mob will come for you too
This kind of stuff happens all the time in custody battles. Sexual misconduct accusations can be a terrible weapon….and often there is absolutely no evidence involved besides accusations and hearsay.
A totally innocent person can get accused of this….and they go to their lawyer and it basically goes like this “if this goes to trial and the prosecutor can convince the judge, you’re going to go to prison for a decade(and we all know what happens to that demographic in prison) and then register for the rest of your life…..or you can take the deal, do community service for 6 months and receive intensive psychiatric treatment for a year.
The fear of a decade of abuse in prison can make an innocent man take the deal.
Luke Heimlich’s parents made him take the deal even though they always maintained his innocence
quote:Yeh I don’t want Casey either
All that being said,
Hire McDonnel
It just isn’t because of the Heimlich thing
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:54 pm to ForeverEllisHugh
62 and retired cutting burnout.
No
No
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:54 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:I thought it was clear, considering that this is a message board, that this is only my opinion. I'm not dishing out legal advice on tRant, brah.
This is objectively false.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 8:59 pm to TigerReb7
I just think that there are other qualified candidates we should talk to and that there is no reason to bring in a retired guy who has all this shadowy baggage with him. We don't need that. LSU needs high character coaches, administrators, and athletes right now. We have taken enough of a black eye with issues that are out in the public view. Please, no Casey.
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:01 pm to TigerReb7
You’re wrong. It happens every single day. Innocent people take the deal. In 90% of these cases there is 0 evidence.
Rarely , in these cases can you prove your innocence. If the prosecutor can convince the judge that you’re guilty(without real evidence, mind you), your life is done.
At least with the plea, an innocent person can still have a mostly normal life after a few years
Rarely , in these cases can you prove your innocence. If the prosecutor can convince the judge that you’re guilty(without real evidence, mind you), your life is done.
At least with the plea, an innocent person can still have a mostly normal life after a few years
Posted on 6/9/21 at 9:06 pm to Big4SALTbro
quote:
Yea the mlb who has all the resources imaginable and often has had no problem bringing criminals in if they can play won’t even sniff the guy.
How many known registered sex offenders are currently in the MLB?
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