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re: Play with Morgan at 3rd/TF in 6th inning.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:08 am to Contrary
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:08 am to Contrary
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First off, morgan approaches 3rd base on a hit. 1st and 3rd, NO OUTS right. First thing that should immediately happen is the 3rd base coach gets a hold of Morgan and tells him that he isnt forced, to shorten his primary and take a small secondary, it is no outs and "runs thru the scenerios" that can happen. Main ones are ball hit in the middle with infield playing deep, we score, if ball is hit to pitcher/3rd base, WE HAVE TO HOLD. If ball is hit to 1st,it depends of he is deep or not. Freeze on line drives and ball hit to outfield deep, we tagging etc.
That’s what a little league coach might tell his players. College players at that level don’t have time for all that shite in a game. You can instill that in practice doing situations, but you’ve got to trust your instincts in the game. There’s no time to think or hesitate, just react. Tell Morgan to shorten his primary and secondary and hug 3rd in a 2-2 game in the 8th with Wake’s pitcher dealing and a couple swings and misses coming up? He needed to be getting the biggest secondary he could without straying far enough that the catcher could pick him, read ball in dirt, and be ready to bust his arse down the line to take the lead back if the ball got far enough away from the catcher. That’s not what wound up happening, obviously, but still.
You can disagree with the call Jay put on for him to go on contact on the ground, but that was maybe only the 2nd time all year Cade hit a ground ball to 3rd, and probably the only time the 3rd baseman was there to field it. It was a low risk/high reward call. He just hit it in the wrong place and their 3rd baseman made a great play and the catcher made a great scoop. Tip your cap. But it wasn’t a bad call. I think Tre’s running and sliding left a lot to be desired, but that doesn’t make it the wrong call to put on there.
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Being aggressive, is squeezing a run in
With a runner on 1st and 3rd with no outs when a sacrifice fly will give you the lead and you’ve got a guy up with 14 home runs who can obviously get the ball in the air, but may not have laid a bunt down in his life, calling a squeeze is “aggressive?” If you mean aggressive as in dumb as all frick, you’d be right.
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This is elementary baseball
Well, you’re certainly right about this as we all learn those hard rules when we’re in elementary school and haven’t been in those situations enough to know that there are countless variables that could arise there. You and your little league coach play scared to mitigate risk, but you’re also mitigating reward. And the reward of Tre scoring there—in that situation—was much more likely than the risk of him getting thrown out like that. But shite happens, and he did.
I however, I listened to Jay’s presser and am not 100% convinced he put that on to prevent a 5-4-3 double play that would have left Tre on 3rd with 2 outs. He figured Cade would either lift it or ground into a 4-6-3 DP, allowing the run to score. And I’m not sure I’m buying Tre’s reason for looking over his shoulder to block ol boy’s throwing lane. To think of that so quick in that moment would be some off the charts HWA. However, he showed he wasn’t on top of his HWA with that disgusting “slide” he tried to pull off.
And anyway, who gives a frick? shite happens, and that happened. Gotta quit crying about it and go rape the Vols out of Nebraska.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:16 am to Contrary
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If you have a runner on 2nd base, not forced, are you gonna take 3rd if a ground ball is.hit.to short or 3rd base? If you say NO then you you would do the same at 3rd. You cant advance becauee youll get thrown and tagged out, "just like Morgan did" ...if you say yes then im done debating this. Many of you who agree with the call would.advance to 3rd in above situation also and get thrown out
Holy frickin shite… four pages of you saying ‘I know situational baseball’ went flying out the window with this shittastic post
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:26 am to Contrary
Tre would have been out if he returned to the bag.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:29 am to RB10
quote:no it isnt. They both involve a ball ahead of the runner. I think your dumb tho.
These are two completely different situations.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:30 am to Contrary
The play with Tre last night….. the ball was in front of him???
Hmmm….
Hmmm….
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:31 am to Contrary
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no it isnt. They both involve a ball ahead of the runner.
That is, literally, the only thing that’s similar.
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I think your dumb tho.
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I mean, the jokes write themselves with you.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:32 am to RB10
The ball wasn’t in front of Morgan, it was hit behind him, so he’s wrong about that too
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:32 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:32 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:they both invole.advancing to.the next base when a ball is hit in front of you... I'm done chatting because you couple people here do t know a dam thing about baseball. The fact that you say its different is the tell tale sign.
Completely different situation.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:32 am to Contrary
Wait, you genuinely believe the ball was hit IN FRONT of Morgan last night??
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:36 am to TheRouxGuru
quote:learn baseball slang...when at 3rd a ball hit in front of you off the bat to the 1. The pitcher is in front of a.runner on 3rd(you cant beat his throw to home) and 2. The 3rd baseman(you cant beat his throw to home unless he conceeds beforehand and plays deep but he wasnt) means the ball passes right in front of you....come on bro. You people are embarrassing yourselves...those 2 pathes are considered ahead of a runner on 3rd. Facts bro.
The ball wasn’t in front of Morgan, it was hit behind him, so he’s wrong about that too
Jay was wrong and until he admits it, he will never grow as a coach.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:37 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:38 am to TheRouxGuru
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The ball wasn’t in front of Morgan, it was hit behind him, so he’s wrong about that too
I get what he’s trying to say, he just seems too dumb to articulate it.
The ball was hit to a spot where, early in the game or if you’re down by several runs, you hold at 3rd.
What he doesn’t grasp is that in a tie game where runs are a premium, in the top of the 8th, going on ground ball contact with a pull hitter and runners on 1st and 3rd is the correct call.
The last thing you can have happen is them turn 2 while you’re standing on 3B.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:38 am to Contrary
If the runner is on third base, and the balls hit BEHIND him to the third baseman, the ball is not IN FRONT of him
I can’t believe I’m arguing this stupid shite, yet here I am
What the fricks wrong with you?
I can’t believe I’m arguing this stupid shite, yet here I am
What the fricks wrong with you?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:38 am to RB10
quote:mr bully man behind a pc talkin smack. Dang your so badd arse
RB10
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:39 am to Contrary
Our coach made a different decision but I would have played it just like the OP would have, which I believe to be the much better percentage play. However, it took an incredible play by the catcher or we get that run anyway.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:40 am to Contrary
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mr bully man behind a pc talkin smack. Dang your so badd arse
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I think your dumb tho.
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Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:40 am to Topwater Trout
To the OP - one tenth of a second difference and you would be congratulating Jay and Trey on their aggressiveness.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:42 am to Lptigerfan
quote:id say he was lucky.
one tenth of a second difference
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:43 am to Contrary
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Jay was wrong and until he admits it, he will never grow as a coach.
Jay said after the game that might have been Beloso's first grounder to 3rd all year. Tre was going on contact based off the high likelihood that Beloso wouldn't be hitting in that direction.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:44 am to Mickey Goldmill
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Jay said after the game that might have been Beloso's first grounder to 3rd all year. Tre was going on contact based off the high likelihood that Beloso wouldn't be hitting in that direction.
OP doesn’t understand situational baseball outside of what is “fundamental”.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:46 am to civiltiger07
I have ZERO issue with how Morgan played that play at third. What he fricked up was his slide. Needed to hook slide feet first away from the Catcher. He would have cut off the throw with his body.
Throw was horrid and one hopped directly in front of a hesitating Morgan. If Tre goes hard slide feet first, that ball doesn’t make it to the catcher, merrifield and beloso also likely advance to 2-3 on the confusion
Throw was horrid and one hopped directly in front of a hesitating Morgan. If Tre goes hard slide feet first, that ball doesn’t make it to the catcher, merrifield and beloso also likely advance to 2-3 on the confusion
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:50 am
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