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Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:49 am to Pintail
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. If Morgan goes back he is tagged out.
Agree and if after tagging Morgan, the wake 3B is feeling daring he can attempt a throw to get two.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:49 am to Geauxld Finger
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I have ZERO issue with how Morgan played that play at third. What he fricked up was his slide. Needed to hook slide feet first away from the Catcher. He would have cut off the throw with his body.
People keep saying this, but people also keep ignoring when I say that wasn’t on Tre!!! Whoever was on deck should have been close to the plate, guiding his slide. Tre doesn’t have eyes behind him! He can’t tell where the throw’s gonna end up so whoever was on deck needed to help him out.
I also don’t think Morgan was even expecting a play at the plate, considering how late and how awkward that slide was
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:51 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:51 am to Chicken
quote:If Tre goes back to 3rd like he should have on a ball at the 3B, he is safe.
Tre is out no matter what he does unless he was on the bag or just a few feet off the bag on the hit. The ball took the fielder right to third base.
In this image the ball is on the way. He is much, much closer to the bag than the 3B:
In this image, he’s already made the decision to go home. Had he gone the other direction, he’s safe easily:
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:52 am to TheRouxGuru
You can base your slide on where the catcher is positioned. I’m not saying it’s tre’s fault, but it wasn’t a great slide. On deck and bench should have been helping. Maybe they were. Didn’t see.
Great play on a shite throw. They probably couldn’t do that again if you have them ten tries
Great play on a shite throw. They probably couldn’t do that again if you have them ten tries
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:52 am to TheRouxGuru
quote:Tre said after the game that he knew where the 3B was. He looked behind him. The issue was the indecision to go feet or hands. He was caught in between and fricked himself.
Tre doesn’t have eyes behind him! He can’t tell where the throw’s gonna end up so whoever was on deck needed to help him out.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:53 am to Geauxld Finger
I agree with you bud. 9/10 times he’s safe
Maybe we don’t need to be placing blame on ANY of our guys (Morgan, JJ, third base coach, on deck, etc) and maybe we should just credit wake forest with a great, yet improbable play
Maybe we don’t need to be placing blame on ANY of our guys (Morgan, JJ, third base coach, on deck, etc) and maybe we should just credit wake forest with a great, yet improbable play
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:53 am to ell_13
He would have to be going back on contact, which no one is doing in that situation.
If he freezes he may end up getting back, but if he hesitates at all he’s getting tagged out or in a rundown. The ball was taking the 3B directly to the bag.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:53 am to ell_13
Off the bat…from that angle, that looks like a double. Nice play by 3B to get to it.
Tre was running in contact. He’s got enough speed and scores of not for an improbable play by the Catcher
Tre was running in contact. He’s got enough speed and scores of not for an improbable play by the Catcher
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 11:54 am
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:55 am to ell_13
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Tre said after the game that he knew where the 3B was. He looked behind him. The issue was the indecision to go feet or hands. He was caught in between and fricked himself.
frick you bitch! dont come at me bro!!
Just kidding, I missed Morgan saying this, so thank you. Also, thanks for the pics in your previous post.. never saw that either.
I still feel like Morgan had a chance of being out had he tried going back to third. Decent chance he hesitates to get a read which could have led to him getting tagged out or at the very least, in a run down
Baseballs weird man
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:57 am to TheRouxGuru
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Whoever was on deck should have been close to the plate, guiding his slide.
Yes! It was Dugas and the replay shows a far too passive Dugas who stayed put and reacted with a safe gesture when he should have moved quickly, shouting even, anything to get in tre’s line of sight and direct the slide wide
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:57 am to RB10
quote:Ive rewatched it multiple times. He freezes then goes. If he freezes then returns, he is 100% safe. He’s also safe if he slides head first or feet first directly into the bag. He made two bad decisions on the play. With no outs and runners on the corners in that situation, the runner goes on anything that isn’t hard at 3B or the Pitcher. With first base covered, you have more time to see and react to what he does. The middle wasn’t in. 3B was. That’s the call. Every coach knows it.
He would have to be going back on contact, which no one is doing in that situation.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 11:59 am to TheRouxGuru
The Wake third baseman made an improbable throw after double clutching. Probably couldn't make that throw again in dozens of tries.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:00 pm to tiger81
He wasn’t turning a double play either. Worst case if Tre stays is 2nd and 3rd with 1 out.
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:01 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Off the bat…from that angle, that looks like a double.
If it screams past the wake 3B does merrifield get waved home?
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:01 pm to Contrary
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:02 pm to BayouPride
Absolutely since they had Cade shades over everywhere but 3rd since he had to hold Tre on the bag
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:02 pm to ell_13
I agree with what you’re saying, but given the totality of the situation, I can’t fault Morgan for taking off… I honestly can’t. I also can’t argue with your logic ( 
) here either so……
Maybe we should just credit WF here
) here either so…… Maybe we should just credit WF here
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:05 pm to Geauxld Finger
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Absolutely [merrifield gets waved home]
The more we dig into this the more painful it’s becoming. Buzzard’s luck
Posted on 6/20/23 at 12:05 pm to Geauxld Finger
They weren’t holding Tre. Second baseman was normal position and SS was shaded to 2B. 3B was playing in for the exact purpose of throwing it home on a ball to him and if the runner breaks. That’s why the rule is to freeze on a hard ball to 3B or the pitcher. You want to force that throw to 2B and then maybe take a chance or you have 2nd/3rd or 1st/3rd with one out. If a double play is turned, the run scores.
This post was edited on 6/20/23 at 12:06 pm
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