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re: play calling with a lead still leaves a lot to be desired
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:53 am to Jim Rockford
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:53 am to Jim Rockford
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With a defense like ours you don't have to ball out on every series. Punt it and make them drive the length of the field.
Horrible theory, I couldn't disagree more. You have a heisman frontrunner QB with an offensive line playing great and weapons everywhere. Another score essentially would end the game.
It was Les Miles-esque, and I was literally cringing.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:55 am to cajuntiger1010
3 points would have ended the game. Playing not to lose? So we are Les Miles football again? Hell no, no thanks.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:57 am to Jim Rockford
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With a defense like ours you don't have to ball out on every series. Punt it and make them drive the length of the field.
Much like the 2019 season, field the punt cleanly, turn it over to the offense.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 12:58 am to cphill
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Yeah....maybe it could have been better, but I'm not
Buddy the whole point of the thread from OP was that you needed so much as a field goal to basically end the game. Go win the game!
It brought back "playing not to lose" Les Miles vibes. There's no reason for it when you have a heisman candidate QB and weapons everywhere. Just put the game away.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:00 am to LSUFreek
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I'd say the plan worked perfectly.
Can you imagine if clemson scored on their last drive? I would have stopped watching, deadass. We needed so much as a field goal to win the game with a two score game.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:04 am to Bigbro24
Well we did try to take a shot, it was just obvious and stupid. The backwards pass was really a fake screen with the other WR on a go. It was a 2 man route, they covered the go so Nuss threw it back to the decoy for a huge loss. That’s a dogshit play call, instead of running your best high % stuff he takes a wild, low % shot and it fails. He’s just really bad with situational football. End of the first half was bad, icing the game was bad. We’ve seen it in just about every big game he’s coached here from every opener, to Tennessee to Ole Miss and on and on.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:06 am to HTX_LSU
Wait you didn’t like going backwards on first down 2 possessions in a row?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:07 am to Madking
Thats what I'm saying, that's what concerns me. I thought our offense was rolling on the first drive, then on 1st and 10 we throw a random 40 yard bomb that goes incomplete, and basically killed the drive. Its those random as calls that are concerning.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 1:12 am to Bigbro24
Let me alleviate your concerns…. It’s not going to change. Hope for us avoiding as many situations like this as possible but don’t fool yourself.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 2:59 am to chadr07
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When most of the passing plays are lateral or a 2 yd dump off/screen over the middle then yes that is still being too conservative. If it’s 3rd & 8 I’m throwing the ball at least 8-10 yds down the field. Not right beside me so it can go for 3 yds or hit at the line of scrimmag
Oh bullshite... if we are throwing in those late game situations and nuss throws a pick or we take no time off the clock you guys would be bashing Kelly for it. Late in the game with a lead your biggest opponent is the clock especially when your defense is pitching a shutout in the 2nd half.
Every coach worth a frick runs the ball or calls high % pass plays in that situation.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:03 am to Bigbro24
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You have a chance to make it a two score game, and end the game. You cant expect the defense to keep bailing you out
Maybe earlier in the 4th but not on that last possession while youre on the road. The worst thing you can do is turn the ball over in your own territory in that situation.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:07 am to Bigbro24
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Buddy the whole point of the thread from OP was that you needed so much as a field goal to basically end the game. Go win the game!
No coach worth a frick is calling aggressive plays in that situation. This isn't madden. You're trying to take as much time off the clock as possible and make clemson burn their timeouts.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 3:11 am to Madking
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Let me alleviate your concerns…. It’s not going to change. Hope for us avoiding as many situations like this as possible but don’t fool yourself.
We have had a decent to great offense every year Kelly has been here. Who are these coaches that never have questionable call using hindsight?I know you know ball so I think your hate for Kelly comes through a bit like my hate for O did. Hope all is well brother...
Posted on 9/1/25 at 4:52 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You're trying to take as much time off the clock as possible
I’m good with running time off clock. I just wish they stay in bounds to keep the clock running rather than run out
Posted on 9/1/25 at 6:19 am to HTX_LSU
quote:but not actually letting the clock run like snspping the ball with 19 seconds on play clock.
trying to run the clock out.
It’s too bad as 1 more first down or more efficient clock management that last 2 minute drive doesn’t happen. Thank goodness Defense was so dominant
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:43 am to HTX_LSU
We lose 9/10 times with that ultra-conservative play calling bullshite by Kelly at the end. Our defense 100% saved us there.
Kelly was doing everything he could to be Les Miles in those final 2 minutes.
Kelly was doing everything he could to be Les Miles in those final 2 minutes.
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 7:46 am
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:47 am to HTX_LSU
You can’t run the ball to ice a game if you don’t call some run plays.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 7:51 am to HTX_LSU
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as soon as we got a lead we went into ultra conservative
You have to understand, Nuss is going to check into plays that the defense gives him. The Clemson defense was playing cover two all night long because they respect the deep threat from our WRs. The only time they ran a cover one, they got beat by Barion Brown in which should have been a TD.
You run the ball with creativity and throw screens and short passes versus a cover two.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:06 am to tonytiger61
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Gotta think its BK
At one point during the game while Sloan drew up pass after pass to a TE or RB outside the hashes there was a shot of BK on the sideline. Clearly talking to Sloan through the headset you could read his lips saying: “Can we get the ball to No. 1 please. He’s been making plays all night.”
Sloan’s play calling and design hasn’t progressed from last year. The only success in the running game comes from Durham breaking tackles in the backfield, or gadgets with Thomas carrying the ball…just like last year. COMPLETELY different OL. Yet, the same result. We that happens you look at the commonalities. That is Sloan.
The passing approach is hesitant until he has no choice. Most throws are outside the hashes. Then, when LSU either falls behind or their offense sputters for multiple drives they start to attack the middle of the field. Like clockwork, the offense starts to click. You saw vs Clemson. As soon as they started to hit Anderson on slants/crossing routes things started to happen.
This defense looks to be championship caliber. The offense has plenty of pieces to be the same. In 2019 Brady was in attack mode all game. He formationed opponents to death. Opponents were constantly confused and LSU wasn’t sitting around “feeling things out” until they confirmed the plan wasn’t working.
Last year the offense had a lot of empty yards. They moved the ball, but it didn’t equate to as many points as you would expect. I said in the offseason one of my biggest concerns was Sloan. I thought the defense would be there (though maybe not this good). He will either compliment the defense to make this an elite team…or be this year’s Matt House. Yes, Clemson is good. Yes, it was a tough place to play. But this offense has a (projected) 1st round QB and a LOT of talent around him. There is no reason it should struggle to put points on the board.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:07 am to HTX_LSU
I think this will change as the season moves forward and theOline continues to gel. Especially being on the road in first game against #4.
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